With a IIc, LCD and battery pack you could indeed have a portable Apple II, perhaps not a laptop but definitely smaller than many of the "luggables" that were around at the time. -- Roger Johnstone, Invercargill, New Zealand Apple II - Future Cop:LAPD - Warcraft II http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~rojaws ------------------------------------------ As a computer, I find your faith in technology amusing.