Re: Jay Edwards, the Apple II, and "mythological posturing?"

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In article <20001031221145.02884.00000272@ng-cd1.aol.com>,
  obsbedia2@aol.com (Obsbedia2) wrote:
> << Mr Edwards
>
> I am contacting you again about the messages that you are posting on our
> list server.
>
> First - I did remove you from OACCList for due cause (and it was not a
> violation of your first amendment rights) rather a violation of our list
> protocol and improper usage of club assets.
> I am here to tell you that you were not removed from the Apple II list,
> but any more of this mythological posturing will be delt with by removal
> from the Apple II list as well.
> It is your choice to be a good citizen of this community or have the
> appropriate action taken.
>
> John Foley - President OACC >>
> listmom@oacc.org
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

Jay, I assume this is in reference to the lengthy post a while back about the
$815 your SIG pays for meeting space.  We ran into a similar problem with
expenses.  The major one was not meeting space cost but the newsletter cost
more to produce than dues were bringing in.  One solution was to go to an
electronic newsletter.	The members could opt for a .pdf newsletter and DOM
at a reduced cost.  We were also trading newsletters with many other users
groups.  That was curtailed.  Board members used to be exempt from paying
dues and anyone who used the web for club business got reimbursed.  That
worked when the GS disks brought in enough revenue to cover costs. Good luck.
 Sandy

>
> Dear American Civil Liberties Union:
>
> 	Are the Rights of Free Speech and Freedom of the Press denied to members of a
> club or denied to users of electronic media?
>
> 	I don't mean to waste your time.  You do important work, but this appears to
> be your area of expertise.  The "violation of our list protocol and improper
> usage of club assets" seems to have been an email posting to raise and continue
> a discussion concerning how club funds are spent when faced with rising
> expenses.  Mr. Foley doesn't have an issue with my vocabulary.  I haven't used
> any words that would make your mother blush.
>
> 	He is limiting my communication because he doesn't like my ideas.  He doesn't
> see that as violating my Freedom of Speech or Freedom of the Press.  I do.
> Before this gets silly and ends of up in court doing no one any good, could you
> offer an opinion?
>
> Here is the issue:
>
> 	The board wished to eliminate a founding portion of the club.
>
> 	Two alternatives were suggested:  eliminate the club's newsletter and/or
> eliminate free dinners and lunches for board members.
>
> For this the suggestor, I, had my email posting and receiving capabilities
> restricted and, as you can see above, my remaining electronic link to club
> members is being threatened to be eliminated based upon what someone else
> thinks about what I have to say.  I believe that "good citizen of this
> community" means speaking out on what one thinks, even when threatened, and I
> hope that the Bill of Rights agrees with me.
>
> 						Sincerely,
> 						Jay Edwards
>
> P.S.  Has the ACLU any experience defend someone accused of "mythological
> posturing?"
>


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