Re: Reclassification - Unification celebration continues

[Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net>]

Quantum_Cat writes ...
> 
> Hiya, Rosy.
>

Grettings, Quantum_Cat.

 
> Rubywand wrote:
>
>  *>Jeff Blakeney writes ...
> 
>  *>> I have to disagree with this point.  One side is
> definitely doing
>  *>> something about the problem.  One side is respecting the
> copyrights of
>  *>> all the old Apple II software and is working hard to get
> things
>  *>> reclassified
>  *> ....
> 
>  *>     True. It's nice to see Tom Turley get some recognition for his 
>  *> efforts. Back when he started the modern drive for reclassification
 ....


> 
> LOL!  When he STARTED the modern drive?  Whatta hoot!
> 
> The effort has been going on long before Turley dreamed of
> trying an honest act.  Lost Classics has been alive and
> running.
 ....

     Yes; that does seem to be true ... now. However, in early 1997, it was
an old GEnie project which had run out of steam. Tom is the one who got
things rolling again.

     An irony is that interest in reclassification probably got the biggest
boost via an effort that failed-- i.e. the trials and tribulations involved
in finally tracking down the real owner of Word Perfect and finding that he
was not at all interested in reclassifying the product.

     Of course, Tom's success with Medley/gs was a boost, too. It showed that
getting important software reclassified was doable.

     The resulting interest and discussions led to consideration of a Csa2
effort to get more old commercial software officially released for free
access. About this time, Willie Yeo volunteered to set up the Treasure Chest
Project.

     Evidently, Howard began to revive the Lost Classics project some time in
1998 or 1999. It is not easy to be sure because he seems to post here
anonymously. (Which is his right; but, as a result, giving credit is more
difficult.)


> 
> For example, what is YOUR definition of "real progress"?  It
> seems to be all over the place... If Tom gets a program
> reclassified, that's progress, but if Willie and Howard do,
> it's not?
> 
> Sheesh..

     ???

     Have routinely thanked Willie and Penman (Howard?) for their efforts in
postings to this newsgroup. The original observation was simply that Tom is
the one who got things moving again.


> 
>  *>     Meanwhile, we should not omit thanks to the great A2
>  *> archives-- standing ever ready to fill in the gaps.
>  *>
> 
> And what archives are these?  Your latest illegal pirate
> sites?  Or the legal ones with hundreds of megabytes of
> useful software?
>

     Must admit that the reference to the archives was Troll bait-- just a
little dab.

     As for the so-called "illegal pirate sites", that discussion is ended.

     You might as well know this:  Whatever they are called, they are
supported by the overwhelming majority of users. They will remain and, very
likely, expand, because they are necessary.

     If you like, we can 'agree to disagree'.

 
 ....
> 
>  *> A useful change would be to shorten the term of
>  *> software/firmware copyrights to something like 5 years.
> 
> What a position to take... 5 years.  I can tell right now,
> you've never put forth a legitimate programming effort.

     You can tell that?

 ....

> 
> What a loser.
> 
 ....

     So long as we have things as we wish them to be, all will be well.

     Enjoy the celebration!



Rubywand