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Re: Apple and the Holy War



In article <nobody-F0BE4D.17340903052000@news.wavetech.net>,
Greg Buchner  <nobody@wavetech.net> wrote:
 
> In article <8epknp$j72$1@merope.saaf.se>, pausch@saafNOSPAM.se (Paul 
> Schlyter) wrote:
> 
>> You mean a lot of people go through the US educational system, all
>> the way through college, without learning one single foreign language?
> 
> I would imagine so...I just happened to go to school where the option
> wasn't available and these days, I imagine that'd be too much work for
> a lot of kids.
 
How come?  In my country, the kids start learning their first foreign
language (English) already during their first year at school.  And
before they've finished their 9 years in elementary school, they
will have learnt some of two other foreign languages (usually German
and French, although some pupils choose Spanish or Russian instead
of one of these).
 
> In my opinion, the school system in the US is going
> downhill really fast.  My Uncle recently gave up teaching after finding
> that he could no longer give students the grades they deserved.  The
> parents would accept nothing less than 'A' grades and complain to the
> principal or school board if he didn't change it.
 
Why even bother about schools then?  Why not just give them these
grades, without requiring that they ever attend school?   <g>
 
But actually, this is great news for Europe: within a generation, when
your uneducated kids have grown up and taken over your country,
your companies will perform miserably and European companies will
gain enormously form this in the international competition.... :-)))
 
 
>>> The bottom line is, I've used other systems and I keep on staying
>>> with my Macs and Apple IIs.
>>  
>> OK, to each his own.  Personally I find the lack of a command line on
>> the Mac too limiting.  And my good ol' Apple II simply has too little
>> power for what I'd want to do, so I consider it a toy which I use
>> occasionally only for nostalgic reasons.
> 
> Yep, to each his own...personally I find no use for a command line.
> Don't know what I'd do with one other than ignore it....
 
This is comp.sys.apple2 -- how did you use your Apple II if you never
used its command line?
 
Anyway:
 
If you learn to use a command line, you can avoid a "mouse arm",
i.e. an arm which hurts a lot, due to excessive stress from a lot
of mouse movements.
 
But I guess we come from different generations.  When I first learnt
to use a computer, there were no GUI's.  So I had three options:
 
1. Learn to use the command line on an interactive terminal
2. Learn to punch cards and submit batch jobs
3. Forget about computers
 
3. was out of the question -- I ended up learning both 1. and 2.
 
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