Re: invisible characters in dos 3.3 file names ? ? ? question

["Sir Cain" <rcain3@mindspring.com>]

You can use Copy II+ or Dos Boss (Beagle Bros.) to find the missing
characters.

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Sir Cain The Silicon Knight
"Gideon Turner" <csilber@zoo.uvm.edu> wrote in message
news:XPwG4.33$kZ3.1162271@news2.news.adelphia.net...
> Hi,
> this is my first time posting anything here.  I did take a look at the
FAQ's
> and didnt see my question answered there.  I used to have an apple II.  I
> still have it actually.  Anyway, i have some files that were stored using
> invisible characters.  I was kind of concerned about security for some
> reason when i was a little boy.  Anyway, i remember that when typing in
the
> file name during saving, i could add invisible characters by using one of
> the modification keys on the keyboard.  The charecters would not show up,
> the position of the cursor would not change, but if the same charecters
were
> not entered in when loading the file, the file would not be found.
>
> Does this ring a bell to anyone?  The particular files in question are
word
> processing files, a program called "Pie Writer".  Does THAT ring a bell to
> anyone out there?  Iam talking some prety old stuff here.  The files are
> accesed from within the program, not directly from DOS.  But i remember
that
> this trick with the invisible characters also worked straight in DOS.
>
> So now ofocurse i cant remmeber the password and i cant access the files.
> Is there some way to access them without knowing the password?
>
> PLEASE, if you respond PLEASE email a copy of your responce to me at
> csilber@zoo.uvm.edu
> I just dont know if i will see them in the newsgroup other wise, although
i
> will try.
>
> PS i love the apple II, my first computer was a clone of an apple II+
called
> "Base 64 A".
>
> Thank you.
>
> gideon