Re: KFPR

[Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net>]

Max Jones writes ...

> 
> In article <37B9EE88.14AFA66C@swbell.net>,
>   rubywand@swbell.net wrote:
> 
> >      Everyone knows that the only reason the report was attacked is
> > that it came from Dr. Tom.
> 
> Wrong. Everyone knows the only reason the report was attacked was
> because Charles Turley showed callous disregard, lack of courtesy and
> flagrant disrespect for others when he posted their words from another
> service, without permission, on his personal 'zine.
>

     It's good to see that you've abandoned the goofiness about stealing
"works".

     So, now, the complaint is that an Apple II news 'zine quoted publicly
posted "words" (i.e. chat) about an Apple II event and, my goodness, without
permission?!

     Want another try?


 
> Everyone also knows that his actions have your undying support and
> encouragement.
>

     Good grief! Your A2 publication (Juiced GS) has my 'undying support',
too. There; feel better?

 

> Everyone also knows that you keep attempting to rewrite the history of
> this dispute so to divert attention from its true cause. Of course, I
> don't blame you for that.

     So far, you seem to be the one trying a "rewrite". Won't work. We all
know very well that had Jeff B. or Gina written the report you guys would
have been falling all over yourselves with congratulations.

     Well, what about charging Jeff or Gina with "callous disregard, lack of
courtesy and flagrant disrespect" for doing the piece without permissions?
All we need do is refer to your fellow Delphonian's comments posted here:

>>
Um, I've been quoted in the lamp and have never been asked for permission.
However, I feel that posting in a public forum gives implicit permission.
<<

Obviously, there would have been zero complaints about "theft" of chit chat.
You would have been too busy coming up with some award for the creator of the
report.

     It just sticks in your craw that Dr. Tom is the one who did the report
and that he got it out while it was News-- i.e. you're jealous.



 
> >      KF is in _big_ trouble. Pretending that you can cruise along
> > without making changes will not solve any problems.
> 
> Yes, everyone knows your opinion of Kfest, the people who keep it going,
> and the Delphi community in general. Yet they continue to fluorish
> despite your frequent diatribes, bitter attacks, and apparent wishes
> that they fail.

     The criticism may, at times, be a bit pointed. On the one hand, we want
you to remain a part of II computing, to participate in the fun of building
it, and to prosper. On the other hand, efforts to shut down access to old
software, to put down new users, and to drive away those with whom you do not
agree must be opposed.

     If you want KFest to be a kind of club meeting for a few old timers,
then, do nothing because that is what it has become. If you want the Fest to
truly flourish, then, you will need to open things up and accept input and
help from all of those users you've been calling "pirates".


> 
> Maybe the real "changes" that are needed are in =your= attitude, not
> theirs. Just a thought ....
 ....

     Thoughts are always welcome.



Rubywand