Re: Profile HD- What is necessary to make it work w/ the II's

[Randy Shackelford <shack@onyx.southwind.net>]

Supertimer <supertimer@aol.com> wrote:

:>Apple III Profile cards aren't nearly as rare as the Apple II kind. I'd say
:>you have about even odds of getting one in any Apple III you run across.
:>It would be a waste of a HS SCSI to use it in a III I think, since people
:>have these mainly for gee whiz value these days. 

: You have a point.  However, the question on the subject line
: refers to the Apple II.  As an Apple II user, it would be easier
: to convert the drive.  Steve Buggie is not asking too much for
: the service.

But we're talking why you would not want to gut a Profile as well. There
are a good many reasons to look elsewhere for an enclosure. Another one
not mentioned is that Profiles are behemoths and only stack well on top
of an Apple III or II with III monitor stand. Otherwise they gobble up a
lot of desk space. And they're beige, which doesn't look so hot next to
grey Apple boxes I say.

: If you have a Profile w/format chip, that's a completely different
: story.  Think of the Apple II user above, however, who has to
: find BOTH an Apple II Profile card (with IIGS ROM at that) AND
: an Apple II AND a piggyback chip AND formatting software.  At
: some point, it just makes more sense to convert.

Another thing to consider is selling the Profile to someone who can use it
and getting a real enclosure. That makes the most sense.

:>Here's a question: as one of the more militant Apple II users here, suppose
:>some Mac type told you that the only use for Apple IIs was to gut them and
:>use the cases as hard disk enclosures. Even more so, suppose this person
:>said that his favorite kind was original ][s, which of course aren't all
:>that plentiful. How would that grab ya? Same logic applies, an original ][
:>would only be useful to a Mac type as a hard disk enclosure, but it's worth
:>much more than that to an Apple II fan. The guy could sell the ][ and take
:>the $ and get a real nice enclosure.

: I think you read me wrong, Randy.  I don't have much feeling
: for the original Apple II.  Now if it was a working Apple IIGS or
: a working Apple IIc Plus that he was messing with, I would
: probably feel what a waste.  I don't think I'd have much use for
: an original Apple II, no matter how rare.  On the flip side, the
: Apple IIe is one of the more capable Apple IIs, so even though
: it is the most plentiful, I hate to see one destroyed.  ;-)

Boy you're not nearly the Apple II fan I was figuring then. I have an
original ][ in like new shape in its original box with original manuals,
plus a copy of the red book. These are a couple of the most prized members
of my antique Apple collection. IIe's and IIgses are a dime a dozen now and
I wouldn't trade that ][ for a truckload of them. BTW I have a Woz signature
edition IIgs with ROM 0 and the original VGC in my collection as well.

: If the Mac user is tired of that SCSI drive in an Apple II case,
: I'd take it and use it for the IIGS!

That's pretty twisted.

:>I like it myself about as much as I liked hearing about all the original Macs
:>which got turned into fish tanks when I was looking for a case to replace the
:>one which got busted up in shipping when I got my original Mac. That made it 
:>a little hard to find one but luckily I did turn one up in great shape. My 
:>opinion is there are too many fish tanks and hard disk enclosures out there 
:>to use old hard to find Apple stuff for those purposes.

: I like to hack, I admit it.  I am less of a computer collector than
: a "let's see what I can do with this hardware" person.  I would
: LOVE to have an original Mac fish tank.  In fact, I have an
: AppleColor RGB monitor right now which I am getting ready
: to try to fix.  If I can't fix it, I wouldn't mind turning IT into a
: fish tank.  ;-)

Well I have one 128 and a spare case for a 128 which will never become fish
tanks.

: I once had a DuoDisk drive in which Drive 1 died.  I
: disconnected Drive 2's leads and plugged it into Drive
: 1's leads to the analog board.  Then I trashed Drive 2,
: sawed the DuoDisk's case in half, and glued the side
: back on.  I ended up with a very nice looking pseudo-
: UniDisk 5.25.  This kind of stuff strikes me as FUN, but to
: a serious collector, it must seem like sacrilege.  Sorry.

You''re talking dime a dozen hardware which has no other use. No big deal 
there.

Obviously this is about to turn into one of those never ending threads so
I'll speak my peace and be done with it: I have four Profiles which are
gonna remain Profiles, and I recommend that other people keep their Profiles
too. If they don't want to use them as such, they should find a buyer who
will. The End.
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