Re: Profile HD- What is necessary to make it work w/ the II's

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Randy Shackelford <shack@onyx.southwind.net> wrote:

>: I think you read me wrong, Randy.  I don't have much feeling
>: for the original Apple II.  Now if it was a working Apple IIGS or
>: a working Apple IIc Plus that he was messing with, I would
>: probably feel what a waste.  I don't think I'd have much use for
>: an original Apple II, no matter how rare.  On the flip side, the
>: Apple IIe is one of the more capable Apple IIs, so even though
>: it is the most plentiful, I hate to see one destroyed.  ;-)
>
>Boy you're not nearly the Apple II fan I was figuring then. I have an
>original ][ in like new shape in its original box with original manuals,
>plus a copy of the red book. These are a couple of the most prized members
>of my antique Apple collection. IIe's and IIgses are a dime a dozen now and
>I wouldn't trade that ][ for a truckload of them. BTW I have a Woz signature
>edition IIgs with ROM 0 and the original VGC in my collection as well.

We are different kinds of Apple II fans.  You are the collector.
You want things "as they were" which explains your love for
something like ROM 0 IIGS with faulty VGCs.

I, on the other hand, want to hack units to push them as far as
they can go for doing useful tasks.  Even though I have a
Windows PC and have access to Macintoshes, I still like to
use the IIGS for computing tasks much of the time.

The original Apple II can't be pushed very far.  Certainly,
it can't be pushed no matter how I hack it to word process
a simple letter on an ink jet printer.  Thus, the original Apple II
is useless to me, no matter how rare.

The Apple IIGS and even the Apple IIe are useful
computers to me.  They can actually DO the computing
tasks that I'm interested in.

There is nothing wrong with your point of view.  There is
nothing wrong with my point of view either.  Both camps
are represented here on csa2.  The Profile controversy has
just brought these differences to a focus, that's all.

You see a ROM 0 IIGS with faulty VGC and thing "gee,
that's rare, I want it."

I see a unit that needs upgrading to be useful.