Re: IIGS INTERNAL P.S.: Transplant IIe ps innards

[romeo@anet-dfw.com (Romeo)]

Why can't you make a 150watt ps fit in the IIgs ps casing? Is the transformer 
too big?

Romeo



In article <6stdna$ltg$3@lynx.unm.edu>, buggie@ben15.unm.edu says...
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>I'll pre-test the IIe-to IIgs internal transplant unit on a long-term test
>before shipping any.  Its capacity ought to be good enough for a
>moderately-loaded IIgs (but for a fully-loaded IIgs, every slot filled, my
>Bugg-Drive is recommended --- 150 watts in an external unit on the floor.)
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>The so-called "heavy-duty" internal power supplies for IIe and IIgs, made
>by AE and clone-makers, are a joke, in my opinion.  Back in 1992/93, I
>bought one of each, brand new.  They each created heat, they each crashed
>(freeze-up) when installed in slot-loaded Apples.  They were not
>impressive; their black color casing was the biggest difference with the
>standard internal power units.  My dissatisfaction with these "heavy-duty"
>units led me to develop the 150-200 watt Bugg-Power ....
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>Wayne Stewart (waynes@intergate.bc.ca) wrote:
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>: David Cross wrote:
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>: > You realize that Applied Engineering used to SELL "heavy-duty" power 
supplies
>: > for Apple //e owners who converted the innards of their //e to a //gs?
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>: > Your back-conversion method is dangerous for a //gs owner who's near the
>: > 35-watt rated capacity of a //e power supply, but safely within the 
65-watt
>: > rating of a //gs supply.
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>: > If I were you, instead of trumpeting this unsafe measure I'd be buying out
>: > Applied Engineering's old stock of //gs supplies and reselling them.
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>: Sorry David, I�ll have to disagree with you on this. The two Apple power
>: supplies aren�t very different in output.
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>: The output of the IIe power supply is 34.75 watts according to the labels on
>: the power supplies and the the Apple IIe Reference manual .
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>: The output of the IIgs power supply is 36.25 watts according to the labels 
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>: the IIgs power supplies and confirmed by the Apple IIGS Hardware Reference.
>: The IIgs and IIe  power supplies both had an input of around 65 watts but 
half
>: of that went up as heat and only half was output.
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>: The 60 watt power supplies Applied Engineering sold for IIes were meant for
>: the IIe & II+,they sold them before there was a IIgs. Later they also sold a
>: IIgs
>: 60 watt power supply that was an exact duplicate externally of the IIgs 
power
>: supply. This would fit in a IIe or a IIgs case.
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>: I believe MC Price Breakers still sells a clone of both AE power supplies.
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>:      Wayne
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