Re: Old Apple 2 Crackers & Pirates forum

[Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net>]

Aaron Pulver writes ...
> 

 ....

> 
> Do you have to work hard at being this funny, or is it natural talent?

     Good 'material' is the key.


> Try
> to be serious for a moment, if you can, and listen to what I have to say.
>

     Okay; go for it.


 
> Support for Apple II users has dwindled to almost nothing. There are only a
> few places left to purchase new hardware and software. There are even fewer
> places to go to discuss things with others who share in this wonderful
> hobby.

     For most users, the Apple II is much more than just a hobby. As for
your attempts to paint a gloomy picture, we have heard it all before.
Yet, here we are, gaining new users every day.



> Delphi is one such remaining place. It is the center of the remaining
> Apple II world, as much as you may dislike the idea.

     No fair! You ask me to be serious and, then, start cracking jokes.



> All of the most dedicated Apple II users are on Delphi.

    (First, you need to be careful about confusing "Delphi" with
"A2-Delphi".)

    "All of the most dedicated Apple II users are on Delphi"? This will
come as a surprise to all of those dedicated users who have never heard
of your forum to say nothing of those who have and avoid it like the
plague.
    


> Most of the remaining developers
> also reside on Delphi.

     Many may; but, then, others do not. In any case, practically
everyone "resides" here, too.



> Nearly all of the new products for the Apple II come
> from the same people you seem to love to insult.

     If you are talking about trouble makers who like to call newbies
"pirates" because they download 15 year-old software from Asimov, those
guys pretty much insult themselves every time they post. 



> Delphi is an exciting place
> to be these days, but more importantly, Apple II users can have FUN there.

     Delphi's chats, game rooms, and many of the better run forums do
make it a fun place, especially if one avoids dead areas.



> 
> 
> Just for the record, who exactly on Delphi don't you get along with?

 ....

     In past dealings (e.g. reviews, editing, etc.) I have gotten along
just fine with most of those you list-- there are a few names I do not
recognize. If you want to ask SiFan about meetings in chats, feel free
to email her. My impression is that she gets along fine, too.



> I'm sure we'd all like to hear which of these fine people
> you think "have lots of experience as pirates" and "covering up their past
> misdeeds while attacking new users looking for oldie game software". I know
> I missed most of the people on Delphi in that list, so feel free to name
> someone not in it.

     Clearly, you have "missed" a great deal if you imagine that I would
dredge up 10-20 year-ago activities and attempt to defame any of those
you mention.



> 
> Now, we should also include csa2 in the list of remaining places to go for
> Apple II discussion.

     Nice, since we probably have more readers each day than your forum
gets in a month.



> Some people think it should be wiped from the face of
> the earth,

     LOL  No doubt!



> while other people literally wouldn't exist without it. :)

     Sure we would. Apple II users are remarkably resourceful.


> Either
> way you look at it, any intelligent person can see that a good portion of
> csa2 posts are simply flames and lies.

     Actually, the flames and lies are way down recently. I guess we
must be making progress!
     


> Yes, there is still some useful
> information here,

     Thanks! As the world's largest Apple II newsgroup and forum, Csa2
does its best.



> or I wouldn't bother to read this newsgroup anymore.

     Good for you.



> Unfortunately,

     !?


> as most people here can tell you, because of the flames and
> lies, csa2 is not fun. It's free, you can find information here often
> enough, there are lots of people reading posts, but none of that makes this
> place fun.

     Darn! What do suggest we do to make this a more fun place for you?



> If you like it this way, fine.

     No, really.

     How about a comp.sys.apple2.wordscramble sub-group? Or,
comp.sys.apple2.romance?!
   


> I have no problem with that, and I
> won't suggest that people are pirates if they stay here.

     Your tolerance is appreciated.



> I know they're
> missing out on the chance to enjoy the Apple II, but that's their loss, not
> mine.

     So true. That's the trouble when a newsgroup gets bogged down
actually answering techy Apple II questions, helping users locate
software, talking about games, working on developing upgrades, and other
such stuff. 


> 
> I've said plenty. Think it over. Enjoy your stay here, Rubywand. As for me,
> I'm heading over to Delphi to start having fun again.
>

     Thank you for your input.


Rubywand


     Hey, what about comp.sys.apple2.buffy?!!!