Re: Appleworks, Asimov, SQC, etc.

[Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net>]

Supertimer writes ...
> 
> bcarver@earthlink.net (Bill Carver) wrote:
> 
> >We can ask the pirates to remove Appleworks from the site, and we've done
> >so many times in the past.  Each time it is removed and each time
> >Appleworks eventually comes back.
> 
> Now this is interesting...
> 
> Are you saying Asimov will remove Appleworks on request, but then it
> will pop back on and won't be removed unless you request it AGAIN?
>

     No; that is what he is _implying_. Bill does not actually say
anything specific except that SQC is too important and busy to be
concerned with the fate of your typical pissant Apple II business
person.

     Happily, Bill now has some specific questions to which he can
reply! Thus, we shall be able to dispel ambiguous implications and deal
with specific claims about SQC's (or whoever's) actions vis-a-vis
specific products and sites.



 
> I don't know about all the Asimov supporters, but this looks like a shit
> deal to me.  "We always remove when copyright holder contacts"...
> sure, but it pops back the next day...it seems Asimov is not interested
> in respecting copyright holders' wishes after all...

     How something looks to you will, naturally, depend upon how much
nonsense you are willing to swallow.



> 
> Bill, I suggest sending ONE more request to them.  THIS time, say
> AS LONG AS SQC IS SELLING APPLEWORKS PLEASE REMOVE
> ALL APPLEWORKS UPLOADS TO YOUR SITE.

     There seems to be some question as to whether SQC currently owns
the copyright to any classic Appleworks version. (At one time, QC or SQC
may have owned the rights to some version; but, such things often
change.)  Just the fact that Apple recently reassigned use of the
"Appleworks" name leaves any claims of Appleworks ownership by anyone
else in serious doubt.

     It should not be too difficult for SQC to answer this question:
Exactly what, if any, rights does the company own vis-a-vis Appleworks
2, Appleworks 3, Appleworks 4, and Appleworks 5?

     Let us clear up who owns which Appleworks copyright before worrying
about delist requests to any major Apple II archive.



> If Asimov TRULY
> respects copyright holders' wishes, this should not be difficult at all.
> People can't download from the incoming directory...instead of moving
> AppleWorks uploads to the right directory, they can just delete them.
> Assuming Asimov truly honors copyright holders' wishes, that is...

     So far, it appears that Asimov has been much more direct and honest
in dealing with Apple II users and copyright owners than have its
attackers. If you want additional proof of this, wait and see what kind
of response we get to the few simple questions which have been
posted.      



Rubywand