Re: visi.com - NM - lies - slander

[pfg@cs.rmit.edu.au (Paul Francis Gilbert)]

drechsau@yuck.net (Mike Horwath) writes:

>This is UseNet News - defend yourselves or run away.

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Alright... lets examine a previous posting of Nathan with regards to you
[It was in response to Rubywand (or Rubywanker as Nathan so dearly loves to
call him) giving a veiled example of the illegality of using work equipment
to post slanderous material. Naturally Nathan took it mean him... heaven
know why ;-)]

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In article <1998042304345900.AAA26153@ladder01.news.aol.com>,
LJSILICON <ljsilicon@aol.com> wrote:
>Where am I going with this? No where...

   Yes, just like the last time you tried to annoy the webmaster where
I work with more glowing rants that really show off your lack of
brains. Peter's got better things to do than suffer fools like you,
but could use *far* more four letter words than I would describing you
if you tried to push it. And, as was brought up the last time Spudboy
Mentzer tried to threaten companies, it's kinda illegal to threaten a
company across state lines, so be sure some of those "deep pockets"
don't decide you're the one that needs to be in an insane asylum.

Nathan Mates
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<*> Nathan Mates http://www.visi.com/~nathan/      <*>
# What are the facts? Again and again and again-- what are the _facts_?
# Shun wishful thinking, avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors
# think-- what are the facts, and to how many decimal places? -R.A. Heinlein
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So we have Nathan 
1) calling everybody who complains about him fools, and then makes a thinly
   veiled statement that if we try reporting his abuses, not only will you
   a) ignore it, but you will b) Start flaming us and/or attacking our
      reports
   ROTFL about him saying you'd use more insults the he would... considering
   his track record, if you tried to outdo him in swearing you wouldn't have
   time to actually say anything ;-)

2) Claims he is safe from legal consequences, since he's 'over the state
   line'... whatever that's meant to mean in the murky legalities of the US.

3) Intimates that we'd have to sue him/the company to get him disciplined.


Considering the length of time he's been using the visi account to post
slanderous material (and I'll point out once again, that 1) slander is
illegal, 2) Nathan knows it's illegal, 3) he doesn't give a shit) without
you, as the system admin doing anything about it, would make even the
greenest newbie suspect that there's some sort of "back-scraching" between
you two, or at least an agreement to turn the blind eye.

If you really want to demonstrate yourself as a responsible admin, why don't
you just admit Nathan's been acting illegally (slander IS illegal) and ban
his internet access for a while... or his account. Or simply block access
to comp.sys.apple2 from his newsreader for a while.

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