Re: Randy's inherent hate of Apple IIs

[shack@onyx.southwind.net (Randy Shackelford)]

Dave Althoff (dalloff@freenet.columbus.oh.us) wrote:

: Without arguing that GNO is or isn't a Linux lookalike (quite frankly, I
: don't care...)...please tell me that I am not seeing a rejection of the
: longstanding tradition of hand-coding Assembler for the Apple ][ series! 
: Personally, I think the hand-written code is what sets the ][ apart. 
: Sure, compiled high-level code is a lot easier to write, and it is a lot
: more portable, it also tends to be bigger and slower thanks to the
: included libraries...

No that is not what you're seeing. What I'm getting at is actually what
you're saying yourself, that it's easier to get good performance out of 
hand coded assembly than compiled code. For 8 bit Apple IIs in particular,
it's the only way to get any speed at all. You don't have linux on Apple IIs
because there isn't enough horsepower to run so much compiled code.

: Apple ][ machine code is some of the best machine code in the business, in
: my opinion, mostly because it was all written by hand instead of by some
: C++ compiler...

No argument there

: Speaking of knee-jerk reactions...someone here has shown himself to have
: an inherent hate of Apple Computer, Inc.  I can't speak for the whole
: group but I can say that we've all been hurt by Apple's actions.  But you
: can spare us the ravings about how rotten Apple is...some of us are
: getting very tired of hearing about it.  Like it or not, Apple is still in
: business, still building a better machine (from the user's viewpoint) than
: the competition, and (major plus) they are not nearly so arrogant as a
: certain software manufacturer (ever read a 'Win'95 License Agreement' from
: a hardware bundle?).  Apple is still around; Apple is producing a line of
: non-Apple ][ computers, which though they are not Apple ][s and are not
: Apple ][ compatible, are a lot easier to exchange data with than any other
: machines out there (I don't have enough serial ports to set up a
: null-modem and leave it in place...).  SO GET OVER IT.

Damn straight.
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