Re: NATHAN and the FAQ Dilemna

[nathan@visi.com (Nathan Mates)]

In article <61h2ui$5jt$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au>,
Paul Francis Gilbert <pfg@yallara.cs.rmit.EDU.AU> wrote:
>Are you seriously saying that you obtained FAQ maintainership without
>the CSA2 community's knowledge? Did God come to you in a vision and say
>"Nathan Mates, thou shall maintaineth the CSA2 FAQ."? Did you do a secret
>deal with the previous maintainer to take over without the knowledge of
>the CSA2 community? 

   Cut this "community" garbage. FAQs never were community property;
they were started by individual folks who were collecting answers to
Frequently Asked Questions. Then they decided to share that with
others. There are no votes on FAQ maintainers, no obligations to any
mythical "community" (which only seems to be dragged up as some excuse
to take away from the works of the one), no nothing. As the previous
FAQ maintainer had not updated or posted the csa2 FAQ in 2+ years,
I requested permission to take over it from him and him alone, as he
was in control. He agreed, and cthe copyright was transferred to me.

>And as I said: you should post some examples to support your claim. Don't
>expect everyone to go searching through his site for dirt. If you claim
>there's dirt on certain pages, then quote examples, or specific page and/or
>locations. And also show that this dirt (if it in any way relates to you)
>was present before you started slinging him.

   Well, since Turkey deleted a lot of previous gunk trashing me when
I last reminded him he was no saint on his web site, no guarantees how
long this'll remain up, but take a look at this web page dump from 
http://www.grin.net/cturley/A2.2000/OCT.PREVIEW/COMIC.STRIPS/

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              Index of /~cturley/A2.2000/OCT.PREVIEW/COMIC.STRIPS
                                       
        Name                   Last modified     Size  Description
  __________________________________________________________________________

 [DIR]  Parent Directory       03-Oct-97 21:42     0k
 [DIR]  FARLEY/                23-Sep-97 15:49     0k
 [DIR]  SM.vs.HIS.BAD.SELF/    23-Sep-97 23:55     0k
 [DIR]  ZIPPY/                 23-Sep-97 15:25     0k
---- snip

   Follow the link to the 'SM.vs.HIS.BAD.SELF' page. Quite slanderous
(and wrong in a whole bunch of places), and clearly dated, as you see
above, before Turley was banned from my web pages. Other comments of
his posted to public archive sites have also been censored for being
inflamatory and before this;
http://ground.isca.uiowa.edu/apple2/upload/SEP.97 had one such file.
[Date on file is when the archive admin edited it]

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                        Index of /apple2/upload/Sep97/
                                       
        Name                   Last modified     Size  Description
  __________________________________________________________________________

 [DIR]  Parent Directory       09-Oct-97 10:10      -
<snip>
 [TXT]  A2.HAC1.SHK.txt        01-Oct-97 16:50     1K
<snip>
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>PS: You mentioned a while ago about blocking a site which had put up some
>pirate programs. How about some details? Was it Apple software? And who
>was responsible for doing it?

   Bill Misek put up a pirate site with emulators, pirated software,
etc on montipora.athenet.net. It was quickly removed when the site
admins were notified of it, but there has been no public apology for
hurting developers, etc. 

Nathan Mates
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