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Re: negativity?
B.J. Major & Dennis J. Gorin <bjbear@ibm.net> wrote in article
<bjbear-ya023680000604970802090001@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net>...
> In article <bjbear-ya023680000604970417320001@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net>,
> bjbear@ibm.net (B.J. Major & Dennis J. Gorin) wrote:
>
> > In article <01bc41ee$8ce87e00$2c880fcf@chesster.pcl.net>, "Jason
Whorton"
> > <chesster@pcl.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Sir, I must question your statement concerning negativity, since you
had
> > > earlier in the same day posted a message advising another reader of
this
> > > newsgroup that you would "copy" the IIc disks for him. Does "illegal
> > > pirating" not constitute negativity? Other readers, what is your
opinion
> > > on this particular topic? Thank you.
> >
> > If it's ME you're talking to, (and I happen to be a woman), what I am
doing
> > is not pirating in any sense. Plenty of people like myself have
managed to
> > get Apple //c's and the like in thrift stores and otherwise
non-computer
> > places. You *cannot* buy the original disks that came bundled with an
> > Apple //c from Apple Computer anymore. If you could, I would not be
> > offering to do this for others. I offer to copy the disks for folks
for a
> > fee of $5.00 if they send me a disk mailer that will hold 4-5 disks and
> > postage to cover mailing the disks back to them. I do not even charge
for
> > the floppy disks!
> >
> > So in answer to your question, sorry, but as far as I am concerned, I
am
> > NOT guilty of "illegally pirating" the original //c system disks.
>
> A P.S. to this post: in case any of you think that I should not be
> charging anything for doing this service, the $5.00 breaks down as
follows:
>
> 1. Approx. 15 min. of my time do copy and label the disks for mailing.
>
> 2. Because I live in a semi-rural area, I then have to take the disk
> mailer to the post office box some distance away.
>
> 3. Most new users of Apple //'s do not yet have the 5.25 floppy disks to
> send me for this process, so I am using my own collection of disks to
> perform this service.
>
> Taking all three of the above into consideration, the fee works out to
just
> about $1.00 per disk. It should be obvious to anyone that I am not
making
> a living nor profit off this.
>
> --bj
> Apple //--///--Macintosh user/supporter/collector
>
Allright.....LETS SETTLE THIS NOW!
He can't be pirating because all the Apple][ System disks are on apple's
FTP server. On that server there is a license agreement that states that
you are entitled to the license if you own an older apple product. Since
obviously all machines were sold with an Operating system, anyone who has
one in their possesion, owns a valid license.
and I quote!:
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