Re: I'm at a loss for words

[tilghman@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Tilghman Lesher)]

Tom O'Neill (tdon@delphi.com) wrote:
: Steven W. Mentzer <steve@pacificnet.net> writes:
:  
: >I bet that if you went to the majority of people and poised the above 
: >argument, they would agree that taking the vehicle after its been 
: >abandoned might in a sense be wrong (if viewed from a black vs. white 
: >perspective), but in a way is acceptable.
:  
: Rule No. 1 of Philosophy and Ethics:
:  
: One cannot argue from a descriptive set of premises to reach a
: normative conclusion,
:  

It's called a hypothetical situation, and you use it to determine
if your philosophical position passes muster for the situation
described.  If it can't, your position must be wrong.

:  
: Just because it is the way it is doesn't mean it ought to be that way,
:  

Precisely what I had argued.  The law is a certain way, but it never
thought to address these problems, and it should, in fact, be a
different way.

:  
: Figures don't lie, but liars sure can figure.
:  

Are you accusing me of being a liar?

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

:  
: >Right and wrong is never black and white. Especially when people like
: >nathan and his other idiots define what black and white really are.
:  
:  
: See above.
:  
: Right and wrong is always black and white, but it's human nature to
: want to Bend it to fit one's own relativistic situation...and then
: the agreements and disagreements come into play....
:  

Ahhhh, so a murderer, a thief, and a vandal should all be punished
in the same manner, right?  After all, it's "always black and white."

And a whistle-blower in the government, a guy who gives change to
a street beggar, and a priest all deserve the same recognition, right?
After all, it's "always black and white."

If you ever get stopped on a traffic violation, I'll be happy to tell
the presiding judge that you believe you deserve the same treatment
as a first-degree murderer.  Do you agree?

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