Re: Regarding Asmiov (was: GS Icon file Verifier released)

[xray@cs.brandeis.edu (Nathan G. Raymond)]

rder@pro-palmtree.cts.com (Richard Der) writes:
>laine@rainbow.rmii.com (Laine Houghton)
>>After all the talk about Asmiov I stopped to visit. There it was
>>Sargon III. The game I loved ( Well if I took back stupid moves
>>and gave myself three queens). My disk died about 4 years ago.
>>But for all the talk, What good are they in the DSK format?
>>I guess there for beamer emulation programs and well I can
>>see why there is an uproar.
> 
>Actually, if you get the program DSK2FILE.SHK, you can turn those
>disk images back into real disks (and vice versa).

To translate a goodly portion of the disk images on Asimov to actual 5.25"
disks would be a relatively time-consuming task, and could only be
accomplished by someone with copious amounts of free time.

>But you have brought out a good point. This is insult on top of
>injury, those beamers are stealing from the very Apple community
>that they so like to trash.
> 
>What the emulator authors intended was for the PC user to actually
>own a ][+, IIe, or //c. They would "bsave" an image of their ROMs
>for the emulator to use. They would convert their disks with the
>DSK2FILE or the ADT programs. It is unfortunate that pirate stuff
>is mixed in with legitamate emulators on the site.

Uh, I own 3 //c's and Black Cauldron, among many many others.
How is it that you propose I transfer Black Cauldron to my Mac to play it?
Perhaps you've heard of copy protection?
Yeah, Copy II Plus can make copies, but those copies are likewise
protected.
I never subscribed to that magazine which described how to actually
remove the copy protection from those commercial programs way back when,
and really I have no resources available to me to get the program onto the
emulator.
I can't believe the conversation has evolved to this point without people
realizing that the only way people such as myself can run software I own
in an emulator is through a cracked copy!!
(Of thw few games that work as bit-copies, I have yet to make them work in
an emulator)

>jefbla@bconnex.net (Jeff Blakeney) wrote:
>>BTW, if we do come up with a set of workable guidelines, maybe
>>they should be posted to comp.emulators.apple2.  They are the ones
>>being most affected after all.  And being the most affected, they
>>might also jump at the chance to help track down copyright holders.
> 
>Agreed. Knowling PC users, they will probably flame us for even
>suggesting they get legit.
> 
>How does one post anonymously? I would volunteer to drop the
>guidelines into cea2, but I am not prepared to have my email box
>bombarded by angry emulator users.

Everyone, stop wasting your lives with this.
Go out into the world, get off your keyboards, and try and make a real
positive difference for a change, a large contribution.
This is a non-issue.
Or not.
Whatever.

Just my 1/50 of a $1
--
Nathan Raymond
xray@cs.brandeis.edu
raymond@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
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