You can find Pacmania, which is a special self-booting 3.5 disk archive from Shrinkit GS. It's located inside the A2.GRAB.BAG folder of GS WorldView. This disk contains every version of PACMAN, MS. Pacman, etc. That URL is: http//www.wco.com/~3d5d1wsw/gsezine/GS.WorldView/ It's also available within the 1WSW folder on the Ground Apple 2 ftp site. Cheers! Charles Turley