Re: attack of a usenet crybaby

[guion@ix.netcom.com (Awake)]

In <36i6cq$f5k@ctnews2.sj.unisys.com> garyg@unity.sj.unisys.com (Gary Greene) writes: 

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>rgshacke@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (Randy Shackelford) writes:
>
>>There is a whiner on comp.sys.apple2 threatening to invoke some "usenet terms
>>of agreement" thing to try to kick off people who use language to which he
>>objects. I can't imagine that such a thing can be done. How about it?
>>--
>>Randy Shackelford
>>rgshacke@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
>
>Some private service providers require that their users sign such a
>document in order to protect the provider from liability in the event of
>real abuse:  break the rules, lose your account.  There are accepted 
>use and practice guidelines but they have no force in law unless you sign
>them as a contract for services, or unless there is an implied contract a
>court will recognize.  However some other things do have force of law 
>(abusive and harassing e-mail is prohibited under a variety of Federal 
>and State statutes).  So in practice most providers are very quick to quash 
>such conduct by their users if it verges on the truly objectionable.  
>
>Educational sites almost always have a policy that formally defines what 
>they will treat as objectionable behavior on the net.  You are party to
>that contract by virtue of being enrolled or employed.  Incivility generally 
>doesn't count unless it really escapes the bounds.  Most often a hold is 
>placed first on the account while the objection is investigated.  If the 
>user appears guilty based on existing traffic found in the local database 
>or in the backups then a penalty will result depending on the severity of 
>the offense.  An immature user will usually be warned for a first offense 
>and suspended for a subsequent repeat.  Sometimes the user will lose their 
>access from that site permanently on a second offense, but I think most 
>sites only suspend for a period of time.  A third such offense is net death 
>at that site in most every case where a use policy is in place.  Some things 
>rate net death on a first offense.
>
>In the event that the user you cite can show that the language they object 
>to is abusive of people because of race, gender, nationality, religion,
>creed, orientation, or previous condition, etc., there is a solid chance 
>they *can* invoke such a penalty from the offender's system administrator 
>at 99% of all sites.  I have personally obtained the permanent suspension 
>of one person's account for sending mass-mail to people in a recovery group 
>that told them to kill themselves.  Some sorts of idiocy, no matter how 
>sophmoric, should not and do not have to be endured.
>
>I do not know how you are involved in this so please do not take my
>comments as a directed at you, though your comment seems to imply the
>person you cite is objecting to you.  Even if you are the person they are
>objecting to, this does not make them right.  Only you know the
>particulars.  However if you are the person, even if you are within the
>legal bounds, remember that a flame may be satisfying in the short run but
>civil discourse is more effective.
>
>
>Respects,
>
>Gary Greene
>Santa Clara, California			garyg@netcom.com (at home)
>
>
Nothing worse than a Damned PC cop! I hate snitches and if some one 
isn't mature or emotionally stable enough to take, respond to or ignore
a flame then they truly are a waste of life! These people, who can't handle 
a joke or insult should seek mental help before socializing in a 
public forum! What is this a the "brave new Usenet"? 
What ever happened to 
free speech? I say let the whole damned internet crash 
before I can't say "FUCK"!
Why do you think there are moderated forums?
People not wanting to risk seeing foul language should read only 
moderated groups!
---Guion 
PS. any P.C.wantabe thought police feel free to complain 
If I get warned I know I'm with the wrong Provider!

  
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