Re: UNIX newbie question

[Scott.Alfter@skunkworks.genesplicer.org (Scott Alfter)]

In article <67960@f10.n209.z1>, Joe Kohn <joko@crl.com> wrote:
>Instead, bandwidth is wasted by 8 year olds who come here and say the Apple
>II is crap, and 25 people write long empassioned answers saying it's not.
>Then we waste bandwidth on the pros and cons of piracy. Today's
>topic...Karateka is uh-uh cool. Karateka is awful. No, Karateka is kewl.

Drek like this goes on in virtually every newsgroup ("Star Trek sucks"
in rec.arts.startrek.*, Linux vs. *BSD* and/or OS/2 in
comp.os.linux.*, etc.).  I'm not saying this is good or bad; I'm just
saying that that's the way it is.  That's the way it has been since
long before I hooked up to the net, and I don't see it changing
anytime soon.  I think you could change the gravitational constant of
the universe before you could eliminate the mindless flaming that
occurs here and in other newsgroups.

>Rhetorical question...don't send e-mail to answer...but, how many people
>are still using ftp when they should be using ncftp instead? I do not think
>that the term ncftp has _ever_ once come up in c.s.a2. Is it in the FAQ? 
>No. So, lots of Apple II folks are still struggling with ftp.

Never heard of ncftp...and why should I quit using straight FTP?  I've
been using it since 1989 without any problems.  I've tried using W^3
browsers for FTP, but don't like the way they connect and disconnect
for each command instead of just staying connected for the entire
session (when I connect to a busy site like wuarchive, I don't want
the connection to be dropped until I'm done--you could get halfway in
and then be able to do nothing because all the allotted connections
are in use).

>To me, it's almost sad that there are folks with a full net connection,
>reading this, who have never heard of, or used, Mosaic or Lynx. I
>know...after I posted about www, I got emails asking me what those things
>are.

Those tools will allow the mindless droids from Delphi, AOL, etc. to
flood the net to an even greater extent than they've already done.
The S/N ratio in more than a few newsgroups is already down (sometimes
significantly) as a result of the drek coming from delphi.com and
aol.com.  Personally, I don't think W^3 offers anything significant
that can't be handled by news or FTP.  Finding stuff by W^3 is
certainly no easier, and is often more difficult because it's almost
impossible to make a map or index for a system in which two sites
could quite easily make references to each other.  In my mind, W^3 is
little more than Windoze for the net, and it'll have the same
long-term deleterious effect as Windoze.

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