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Re: Net piracy?
- Subject: Re: Net piracy?
- From: dkl@crl.com (David K. Leikam)
- Date: 14 Jul 1994 17:47:06 -0700
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
- Organization: CRL Dialup Internet Access (415) 705-6060 [login: guest]
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re: Lost classics, piracy, etc.
Amen, bro. Copyright is an equitable procedure, not a legal one. For
those who don't know the difference, please shut up and go learn.
Copyright exists only insofar as someone is there to complain about
violations. No complaint, no violation, and no copyright. It's just that
simple. See previous paragraph.
The "Theft is theft, plain and simple" argument strikes me as moronic.
(I hope I'm really offending somebody, here.) I have this friend who
just bought a futon to replace his sleeper sofa. Problem, how to get rid
of the sofa he doesn't want anymore, without having to haul it off
somewhere? Easy. Put it out by the curb, and little elves come to take it
away overnight.
By his actions, he indicates VERY clearly, he doesn't want the thing,
he's abandoning it, please somebody come take it away.
This is called, "Abandonment". See the first paragraph, above.
Now, if I cannot anywhere legitimately purchase something, and the
putative owner cannot be found by a diligent search, or clearly indicates
indifference toward selling same, wherein is "theft"?
BTW, "theft" is a legal term, precisely defined, and includes the
provisio that the thing "stolen" has value. See the first paragraph. A
thing with zero value cannot be taken by "theft". See the first paragraph.
All ya havta do to prove something's valuable, is to show it's valuable
to you, the putative owner. If all your actions demonstrate you don't
give a rat's tail, where is value? And where is theft? If you can't even
be FOUND to be asked about your car/land/software, is it theft? (Hint:
See "Homestead Act", "Title by possession", and "Squatter"). See the
first paragraph.
Oh, and the moral crap? If I say, "I don't have any, won't sell you any
cuz I don't have any, don't know who does, and don't care, please lose my
phone number", I think you're reasonably entitled to assume moral
justification in finding whatever it is without further reference to me.
ON THE OTHER HAND, morally speaking...say I takes your money and sells
you a product like an accounting program for yer biz. Later on it messes
up, and you take losses because of that. I use my levitical license and
my legal nonexistence (Oh, THAT corporation? Dissolved 10 years ago!) to
escape any moral obligation to even get the thing running again, let
alone compensate you for the damage... your comments on the morality of this?
(I have a brick poised to throw at anyone who says, "2 wrongs don't
make a ..." Mon, what do you think civil justice IS? It's a sanctioned
second wrong, the taking of the property of the defendant by force (that
of the state). And criminal justice? The taking of life & liberty by
force of the state. Get a grip.)