I don't have FTP, and cannot find any version of Angel on my local BBSs. If someone has it, could you Shrinkit and BinSCII a copy and e-mail it to me at: atkinson.deven@forum.va.gov Thanks in advance! Apple ][ forever! ++++++++++++++++++ Deven Atkinson Technoid Internet: atkinson.deven@forum.va.gov ++++++++++++++++++