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Re: SCSI-IDE-CF Experiment




"pitz" <pitz.wong@gmail.com> wrote in message 908100af-85e5-4c06-bf80-b23f08789dbf@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com">news:908100af-85e5-4c06-bf80-b23f08789dbf@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 22, 2:14 pm, "Bill Garber" <willy4...@comcast.net> wrote:
"Alex Freed" <alex_n...@mirrow.com> wrote
in messagenews:gb8vta$2hn$1@aioe.org...

> pitz wrote:

>> Interestingly, the SCSI-IDE-CF setup seems
>> to boot up slower than my external SCSI drive

> I don't find this unusual in any way. SCSI
> protocol is entirely different from what CF
> uses, in IDE mode or otherwise. The controller
> has to read a SCSI command, issue an equivalent
> to CF, read back the data to a buffer (most likely)
> and then send the data back to the SCSI controller.
> At boot time a real disk will take some time to spin
> up, but in most cases the SCSI controller will wait
> this time regardless of the presence of a physical
> disk on the bus.

> -Alex.

What I find 'MOST' interesting, and thought impossible,
is that this setup has read a CF card removed from a CFFA,
and directly installed into it without any repartitioning
or formatting whatsoever. And it still works in the CFFA?
That is most astonishing!

Or, have I misinterpreted what was said?

It was removed from a CFFA and directly attached to the adapters. I had four partitions in the CFFA though, and only the first one is being "mapped" as a SCSI drive. I'm guessing that the SCSI-IDE adapter reads the IDE partition table and only uses the first partition. The same adapter may not recognize low-level SCSI partitioning and will not re-partition the drive beyond the 32MB CFFA partition, but I haven't attempted SCSI partitioning.

CFFA does not use a partitioning table at all. It's a fixed partitioning, 32/32/32/and whatever is left, usually around 28. That is why I'm in awe that it worked at all.
I got scrunched for time and wasn't able to see if the CF card I used works again in the CFFA setup (I suspect it would) -- will look into that tonight.


Uh-oh!, I hope you backed it up. It may not work in the CFFA anymore. All the SCSI cards on the Apple II use a different partitioning scheme, except that the Rev"C" and the Hi-Speed cards may be the same, not sure there either.
Bill Garber from GS-Electronics
http://www.garberstreet.com

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