Re: My Apple ][+ is now very, very sad...

[John <john8520@gmail.com>]

Ok, updates!

I just tested two things; putting an alternate video source on the
Monitor ][, and connecting the ][+ to two TV sets. I first connected
my dead //e to the Monitor ][. Though the //e itself is not
functional, it crisply displayed all the pretty random chars that it
displays every time it boots up, no lines or anything of the sort. To
make sure, I connected my laptop to the monitor via an s-video - to
RCA adapter, and it also displayed fine. (Though windows XP looks very
odd on such a display)

I then brought the ][+ upstairs and tested it on two TVs, and got the
same result as I got on the Mointor ][, except the waves of lines were
in black and white not black and green, but that was to be expected.
To make sure that the ][+ didn't kill the TVs and that the TVs
themselves didn't have horizontal synch problems, I connected my
laptop to them as well through the same s-video cable and it worked
fine.

So I think we can now conclude that it is the ][+ with the problems,
not the displays. I am going to try pushing on the chips next, and
I'll report back as to wether or not that did anything.

John

On Jul 14, 2:01 pm, John <john8...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Right. I also think it might be the ][ not the monitor because when I
> tap reset a bunch or toggle the power swtich, I get lots of random
> charachters, but maybe that always happened. Then again, its possible
> that the horizontal hold on the monitor only affects the video that is
> input, and thus does not go beyond the boundries of what the ]
> [ displays.
>
> On Jul 14, 11:09 am, "Jeff Blakeney"
>
> <jeff.blake...@a2central.com.remove-4au-this> wrote:
> >   To: winston19842005
>
> > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:31:40 -0400, winston19842005 wrote:
> > > On 7/13/07 10:19 PM, in article
> > > 4I2dnZr6_Jc-rwXbnZ2dnUVZ_gudn...@comcast.com, "William Garber"
> > > <willy4...@garberstreet.com> wrote:
>
> > >> "John" <john8...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> > >>1184377352.084481.34870@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com">news:1184377352.084481.34870@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> > >>: This is such a disappointment. After putting in all that time to get
> > >>: my ][+ nice and clean and looking new, and having spent hours
> > >>: disassembling and reassembling the keyboard to get it working just
> > >>: right, it dies on me, mostly dead anyway. At least I got a few days of
> > >>: fun with it after I cleaned it up.
> > >>:
> > >>: Anyway, yesterday afternoon I trekked down to the basement to align
> > >>: and calibrate my Disk ][s. I turned on the lights, shut off the
> > >>: dehumidifier (its so loud!) and booted up the ][+. At first I freaked
> > >>: out because I wasn't getting any video, then I noticed that the
> > >>: Monitor ][ was just turned off, so I sighed a sigh of relief and
> > >>: turned it on. And then I started to freak out. I was greeted with a
> > >>: very icky looking screen, instead of the normal APPLE ][ with the
> > >>: little ] prompt, I got this:
> > >>:
> > >>:http://i12.tinypic.com/6c2xh6p.jpg
>
> > >> Looks like a monitor problem, not with the II+.
> > >> Possibly horizontal hold. Does it have those
> > >> types of controls? Most of mine only have vertical
> > >> controls, which seems minimal. You could also try
> > >> connecting it to a TV to verify that it is, or isn't,
> > >> a problem with the monitor.
>
> > > I agree with William... The fact that you can see APPLE ][ on the screen...
>
> > I'm not sure what the real problem is but it doesn't look like a monitor
> > problem to me seeing as the lines are confined only to the display area
> > of the Apple II and don't go into the borders at all.
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