Re: IIgs netboot idea.

["pitz" <wongpet1@msu.edu>]

About a year ago, I was trying something related to this.  I was trying to 
boot my IIgs off a Mac LC475 through the Ethernet port of an add-in card to 
the LC.  I remember that I could not get it to work through the AsanteTalk 
bridge.  I think it was also mentioned in the a2central LAMP archives.

I was able to make it work using a Farallon Etherwave bridge (one was 
recently unsold on eBay for $25) and there are several more listed -- look 
for the one that has the LocalTalk, not the AAUI, connector.  One is up for 
auction now (eBay 130099279176).  The LC475 sees AppleTalk over Ethernet, 
while the IIgs sees AppleTalk over LocalTalk.

I have since taken down my setup, but I've been planning to make some tests 
again since I recently obtained a Farallon Etherwave bridge that takes its 
power from the ADB port (instead of an additional wall wart).

I also have a GatorBox, but did not use it to test this scenario.  A 
GatorBox will be useful once you start getting interested in Marinetti, 
because the GatorBox is a MacIP server as well.  I've connected it directly 
to my Ethernet home router and to my LocalTalk network where the IIgs is 
attached.  Marinetti is able to obtain an IP address using DHCP.  A Shiva 
FastPath (one of which I recently sold to a reader of the newsgroups) also 
works the same way.  Although if you are connecting to a Linux box, I think 
there is an existing MacIP server package that you can install on Linux.


"David Schmenk" <dschmenk@GACH.gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:SCiTh.16217$Um6.7532@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...
> Tristan Mumford wrote:
>> G'day!
>>
>> In the last couple of days a couple of random discoveries made me dream
>> something up. I wanted to run it by everyone here.
>>
>> Recently I discovered a product called the AsanteTalk Ethernet bridge. It
>> seems to be a fairly venerable product that acts as a bridge between
>> AppleTalk and Ethernet. It still however uses AppleTalk.
>>
>> Also in the last couple of days I did a basic fileserver install of 
>> Debian
>> on a small IDE harddrive to aid in the recovery and copying of some of my
>> old files. It installed the AppleTalk daemon which actually surprised me 
>> a
>> little. I didn't realise it was a core part of the file server install. 
>> But
>> then I've never done a canned install before.
>>
>
> This is exactly the setup I have been trying to get working.  I picked up 
> the AsanteTalk off eBay recently (pretty cheap, too) and I use Debian as 
> my main fileserver.  To the point, I have had zero luck.  I have tried 
> both my IIgs running 6.0.1 and a IIe w/ workstation card.  I've tried 
> hooking up to my Debian server through netatalk and a Mac running OS X. 
> Neither IIe or IIgs sees the Debian server.  The IIe saw my OS X machine, 
> but I couldn't log on, as I'm sure the OS X machine requires encrypted 
> passwords.  Oddly, my IIgs really weirds out while looking for AppleTalk 
> servers through the AsanteTalk.  The mouse cursor  turns to garbage and 
> the machine locks up. Both machines work great talking to AppleShare 
> Server 3.0 and AppleSharePro Server 3.0 running on MacOS 7.5 or A/UX 3.0 
> on a LocalTalk network.
>
> I would love to hear from anyone who has had success with the AsanteTalk 
> and a IIe or IIgs.
>
>
>> Anyway after a while the two items sort of connected in my mind.
>> I started to think it may be possible to make an HFS image and set it up 
>> as
>> a loopback device, or even a small hfs formatted harddrive to plop the
>> necessary bootfiles for the IIgs on.
>> The only reason I was thiking HFS is for the preservation of resource 
>> forks.
>> Unfortunately I don't know of a ProDOS fs driver for linux, however
>> incredibly useful it would be.
>>
>> If these steps and ideas actually worked then some more interesting hacks
>> would be possible, like an altered userland driver specifically for this
>> purpose allowing disk images to be entered like directories. Imagine how
>> useful that would be :)
>>
>> I would like to try all this out myself, however I'm having the standard
>> problem. Every one of the bridges I have found are in the US, and at a
>> premium price too.
>> So if there's anyone across the ocean that wants to give this a try or 
>> has
>> already done so I'd love to hear about it.
>>
>> Tristan.
>>
>
> Good luck.  Let me know if there is something you want me to try.
>
> Dave...