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Re: Apple //c Sporadically Crashing into the Monitor
- Subject: Re: Apple //c Sporadically Crashing into the Monitor
- From: sean weintz <strap@hanh-ct.org>
- Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 14:31:01 -0400
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My experience is that random crashes into the system monitor on any apple II is usually caused by an intermittently bad ram chip.
As I recall, the ram on a iic logic board is soldered. Best bet is splurge $50 bucks or so and buy another on ebay.
Stephen Adams wrote:
Hi folks.
What would cause an Apple //c to sporadically crash into the Monitor? It
happens at sporadic times; sometimes waiting until after I've been
working a few minutes or crashing immediately after turning the computer
on without a disk in the drive. While the Monitor is dumping memory
register contents to the screen, the disk drive light will occasionally
come on for varying lengths of time.
Sometimes I can clear this garbage with the usual Monitor exit of
CTRL-C; other times, only a power recycle will do. If I let the Monitor
have at it for long enough, it'll display an entire screen full of
alternating lines of inverse "@" signs and half-toned blocks (with the
odd inverse/flashing/normal characters scattered randomly about the
display).
My //c has a 5.25" drive inbuilt, and when I first bought it, the
motherboard was upgraded so that it would work with the UniDisk 3.5"
drives. Externally, I have one UniDisk drive and one Laser 5.25" drive,
although the computer will crash into the Monitor without those connected.
At one time, I had an Applied Engineering Z-RAM Ultra 3 memory
expansion/Z80A co processor board installed, but that has since been
removed. This expansion board, when installed, required the CPU and MMU
chips to be displaced from the motherboard to itself (as the Z-RAM used
those chip sockets on the motherboard as its data pathway). Upon removal
of the expansion board, I thought that perhaps I didn't reseat the chips
back into their proper motherboard sockets correctly, but reseating them
didn't help.
Could either of the CPU or MMU chips be bad? Could the UniDisk upgrade
be causing this? Is this a thermal issue (though the problem happens
even after the top of the case was removed)? Could this be caused by a
failing power brick?
I would appreciate any insights into this problem. I was given
approximately 150~200 "Software of the Month" diskettes that I'd like to
explore. Perhaps, copyrights willing, I could even turn them into disk
images and upload them to a suitable repository. But I can't if my
beloved //c is acting up.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Steve Adams