<< I think my original IIe box was glossy with graphics. It is looong gone. I have a IIgs box like that. Thanks, Jason Whorton >> Appole got blasted for using non PC friendly boxes. The white boxes they started out with were bleached to turn them white, or painted white, the second go round they used the shiny boxes. They finally got on the recycle bandwagon and used the brown boxes. Raymond