Re: Looking for an old A2 program

[mjmahon@aol.com (Michael J. Mahon)]

Roy wrote:

>Andy McFadden wrote:
>> Quadrajet1 <quadrajet1@aol.com> wrote:
>> 
>>><< Val Golding wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Eliza" came long before the Mac was a gleam in Woz's eye. I had a
>>>>copy of Eliza in early 1978.
>>>
>> 
>>>My, my. Nothing like showing the whole world how ignorant you are.
>> 
>> 
>> He is, nevertheless, essentially correct:
>
>"Essentially"?
>
>Essentially, I was correct in my statement:
>
>1) The Mac wasn't Woz's creation
>2) The Mac came out in 1984
>3) The II was Woz's creation
>4) The II was released in 1977
>5) He claims to have had a copy of Eliza in 1978, AFTER the II's release
>6) The link you supplied does give the date that Eliza was 
>finished/released, however, for the sake of argument, let's accept 1963.
>
>Six items of information, all of which concern his statement, only one 
>of which was accurate. Besides that, the post that he made was in 
>response to one by Michael Mahon, who had supplied information such as 
>you cited above. So his one "essential" point was moot.

Wow, Roy--flame off, please!  ;-)

As you are demonstrably aware, replies to news posts get typed out
rather hastily, and sometimes all the deeper implications of the words
(both original and replied) are not fully appreciated either by readers
or writers.

Therefore, it is prudent to give folks a little slack in getting their point
across, don't you think?

Courtesy and "benefit of the doubt" should usually be extended to
posters we do not "know" from repeated posts to be off the mark.
And courtesy should certainly be offered to posters who have
contributed greatly to the Apple II universe, like Val Golding and
Andy McFadden.

Val's misunderstanding had little to do with your response, but
was based on confusing my incomplete characterization of MIT's
1960's Project MAC with the "Mac" computer.

I respect you, as well, and so must assume that you just "got out
of bed on the wrong side" this morning.  ;-)

-michael

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