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Re: Looking for an old A2 program



Andy McFadden wrote:
Quadrajet1 <quadrajet1@aol.com> wrote:

<< Val Golding wrote:

"Eliza" came long before the Mac was a gleam in Woz's eye. I had a
copy of Eliza in early 1978.


My, my. Nothing like showing the whole world how ignorant you are.


He is, nevertheless, essentially correct:

"Essentially"?

Essentially, I was correct in my statement:

1) The Mac wasn't Woz's creation
2) The Mac came out in 1984
3) The II was Woz's creation
4) The II was released in 1977
5) He claims to have had a copy of Eliza in 1978, AFTER the II's release
6) The link you supplied does give the date that Eliza was finished/released, however, for the sake of argument, let's accept 1963.

Six items of information, all of which concern his statement, only one of which was accurate. Besides that, the post that he made was in response to one by Michael Mahon, who had supplied information such as you cited above. So his one "essential" point was moot.

Roy


http://www.slais.ubc.ca/courses/libr500/2000-2001-wt1/www/k_munro/historyAI.htm
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ELIZA
In 1963 Joseph Weizenbaum joined MIT and began work on a computer program
that would interact with human beings in natural language to give the
appearance of artificial intelligence.  Weizenbaum called this program
ELIZA, and made it act like--horror of horrors--a Rogerian psychoanalyst.

Rogerian psychoanalysts tend to repeat, or "reflect," a client's words
back to her.  ELIZA paraphrases the key words and statements that a human
being enters in "conversation" with it, and asks general questions about
the user's state of mind.  <Click here to see how annoying this can be.>

While ELIZA is clearly not truly intelligent, it nevertheless has passed
the Turing Test.
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I'm not sure if the version that ran on the Apple II was the "full"
version or a limited subset.




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