Re: Clone - see if this looks familiar

["Ernest" <ernestls@attbi.NOSPAM.com>]

"Mike" <mike@bogus.address.net> wrote in message
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> Ernest wrote:
>
> > "Mike" <mike@bogus.address.net> wrote in message
> > I have a couple of systems that sound similar to yours. Take a look at my
> > web site, and look at the OS-22 motherboard. It sounds like it could be
> > the same board, or very nearly.
>
> Hey, whadda you know.  Even the same ROM card.

Well there ya go. It makes me wonder how many of the clone boards that
I have were built by hobbiests, rather than at the factory. There are a few
that I know were home jobs -the sloppy soldering and wire wrapping
on others makes me wonder. The "ready go" system was a home job,
and the person who built it laid several bridges, including one of the
sockets
on the first memory row. The poor bastard probably never even got a chance
to see it in action. There's nothing more fun than de-slobbing someone
else's shoddy solder job. I'm ham fisted with a soldering iron but even I can
avoid bridging.

> My uncle built this case, I do know that.  He either had the board and ROM
> board fabricated from plans, or it came in a kit form, with no case.

You should document what you know about this system. It may not seem like
a big deal but future collectors will thank you. It's likely that this board,
if you
do sell it to a collector, will probably pass to other collectors as time
goes
by, and the documentation that you provide will probably stay with it... at
least if these collectors know what they are doing. The fact that it was hand
built, and the ROMs were copied from a II+ are good things for future
collectors to know. I wish that I had information like that about my clones.

> My uncle used a standard Apple II/+/e power supply when he made it, and it
> has the standard Apple connector.

That was good thinking on your Uncle's part. It's much easier to find Apple
II
power supplies than the odd ones that some of my clones use, and the Apple
supplies are probably safer to.

> I'm not interested really in making a working machine.  Actually, I am
> attempting to appraise it's value for sale to a collector,

Tough call. It definitely has value but considering that it uses copied ROMs
rather than weird knock-offs, no case,  and no video or cassette jacks
decreases the value to an extent but the fact that you know it's history,
and it was hand built add's value. I bought my OS-22, which is complete
and in pristine condition, for around $38.00. I should say however, that
I consider that a very good price.

>  My IIc and KEGS pretty much satisfy my Apple
> cravings, except for CP/M, and I am looking for a Z-RAM for that.

It just so happens that I have an AE Z80 board for the Apple IIc. Let
me know if you are interested in making a deal of some sort. Otherwise,
I was going to put it on ebay.

> It says "Apple ][", and my uncle also burned the EPROMs himself.  Matter of
> fact, I own the II plus who's ROMs were copied for it.

That's cool. Considering the sentimental value of this board, and the fact
that it takes up so little storage space, are you sure that you want to part
with it?

E.