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Re: ADTPro 1.2.4 Released

On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 1:29:39 PM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
> On 9/11/2012 12:36 PM, Hot Rod wrote:
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> > On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 10:50:12 AM UTC-5, schmidtd wrote:
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> >>> Does this mean that the Time Zone disks in the archive will finally be able written to physical disks?
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> >> No.  Only one direction works - from physical to digital.
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> > Time Zone uses volume numbers to keep track of all its disk sides.  So while a .nib will work for that, a .2mg will work as well. When I imaged my Time Zone disks, I just converted the .dsk images to .2mg via CiderPress, and then set the volume numbers correctly.  (The TimeZone I have is from an old crack I did, without any added title screens or such; it was just to archive it.)
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> > Does ADTPro handle .2mg images back to real disks, preserving the volume numbers?  If so, I can upload my TimeZone .2mg files to Asimov.  (It could be done perhaps by reading the volume number from the .2mg header and formatting the target disk before writing the sectors.)  Then you could create correct physical disks.
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> > If not, then I think that working real disks can still be produced from .dsk (.2mg) images by creating physical copies for each side (all 12), and then use Bag of Tricks to re-init the disks with the correct volume number (using the preserve data option).  Bag of Tricks has this feature for changing volume numbers (IIRC, been a while).
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> > This approach should work for anything that is normal 16-sector format, but just needs teh volume number touched up.  While most disks use 254, I encountered several that use an alternate (001 is common, as are a sequence for multi-sided programs).
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> This comes up from time to time - I've thought about it here and there. 
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>   Some earlier discussion about how to prepare numbered disks:
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> http://macgui.com/usenet/?group=1&id=249430#msg
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> ADTPro client has init code, and the server can know if a 2mg has a 
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> different volume number.  There would just need to be an additional flow 
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> that told the client to init with it.  But I like the bag of tricks 
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> method better - less work for me. ;-)

Out of curiosity, I did quick search on which disk images I ended up converting to .2mg in order to set the volnum so they could run in AppleWin.  Here's what I came up with:

\Adventure\AMAZON_S3(vol3).2mg
\Adventure\BLACK_CAULDRON_S1(vol1).2mg
\Adventure\BLACK_CAULDRON_S2(vol2).2mg
\Adventure\BLACK_CAULDRON_S3(vol3).2mg
\Adventure\BLACK_CAULDRON_S4(vol4).2mg
\Adventure\BLACK_CAULDRON_S5(vol5).2mg
\Adventure\DARK_CRYSTAL_1B(vol3).2mg
\Adventure\DARK_CRYSTAL_2A(vol4).2mg
\Adventure\DARK_CRYSTAL_2B(vol5).2mg
\Adventure\INTRIGUE_S1(vol177).2mg
\Adventure\INTRIGUE_S2(vol178).2mg
\Adventure\KINGS_QUEST_II_1A(vol1).2mg
\Adventure\KINGS_QUEST_II_1B(vol2).2mg
\Adventure\KINGS_QUEST_II_2A(vol3).2mg
\Adventure\KINGS_QUEST_II_2B(vol4).2mg
\Adventure\KINGS_QUEST_II_3(vol5).2mg
\Adventure\TIME_ZONE_1A(vol2)_hr.2mg
\Adventure\TIME_ZONE_1B(vol3)_hr.2mg
\Adventure\TIME_ZONE_2A(vol4)_hr.2mg
\Adventure\TIME_ZONE_2B(vol5)_hr.2mg
\Adventure\TIME_ZONE_3A(vol6)_hr.2mg
\Adventure\TIME_ZONE_3B(vol7)_hr.2mg
\Adventure\TIME_ZONE_4A(vol8)_hr.2mg
\Adventure\TIME_ZONE_4B(vol9)_hr.2mg
\Adventure\TIME_ZONE_5A(vol10)_hr.2mg
\Adventure\TIME_ZONE_5B(vol11)_hr.2mg
\Adventure\TIME_ZONE_6A(vol12)_hr.2mg
\Adventure\TIME_ZONE_6B(vol13)_hr.2mg
\Educational\GALACTIC_PROSPECTOR(volA).2mg
\Educational\WHERE_WORLD_CARMEN_S2(EmulFix_vol130).2mg
\Graphics\PAPER_GRAPHICS(vol01).2mg
\Misc\LOVERS_OR_STRANGERS(vol01).2mg
\Productivity\HOMEWARD_V1.1(vol04).2mg
\Productivity\JANE_DEMO(vol01).2mg
\Productivity\JANE_GRAY_SYSTEMS(vol01).2mg
\Productivity\SENSIBLE_SPELLER_4.0C(vol01).2mg
\Productivity\SENSIBLE_SPELLER_4.0E(vol01)_hr.2mg
\Productivity\TIME_IS_MONEY(vol105)_hr.2mg
\TerminalModems\TELEPORTER(vol04_6502only).2mg
\Utility_Copiers\APPLE-AIDS_3.3(vol66).2mg
\Utility_Copiers\APTEST(vol01).2mg

So in order for any of these programs/images to work after being sent back to a real Apple, they'd need the volnums set accordingly.  And this is just a sampling from the images I had overall; maybe there are more among the other online collections.  Some could be overcome by modifying the code that uses a volume number of 1 (or otherwise only rely on a single volume number), which would leave mostly a few multi-sided adventure type games.

But maybe this provides some idea of the scope of the possible benefit (i.e. it's not huge).

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