Re: Evil Conspiracy!

["Tom Zuchowski" <tzuchow@attglobal.net>]

Was NorthStar Basic a derivation of Microsoft Basic? It was in very wide use
on S100 machines back around 1980. I seem to remember that Byte Magazine
published a lot of programs in it. Fortunately I had purchased a BASIC
cross-reference that listed the variations in different flavors and could
translate them all to Applesoft. Usually the biggest change required was
IF-THEN statements, because Applesoft skips the entire line if it is false
and pretty much all other Basics just skip the IF-THEN statement and execute
the rest of the line.


Tom Zuchowski

"Scott Alfter" <salfter@salfter.dyndns.org> wrote in message
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> In article <3C47178B.7050905@coli.uni-sb.de>,
> Linards Ticmanis  <ticmanis@coli.uni-sb.de> wrote:
> >Dan wrote:
> >> Microsoft made Applesoft Basic!?!?
> >
> >Well, unfortunately the answer is YES...
> >
> >Notable exceptions are Apple's Integer BASIC, and (I think) the BASIC of
> >the TI 99/4A.
>
> Everyone here (well, everyone in csa2 anyway) knows Woz wrote Integer
BASIC,
> and I'm 99% sure (bad pun) that TI BASIC and Extended TI BASIC didn't come
> out of Redmond (or wherever Microsoft was based at the time).  Once you
get
> beyond the simplest stuff, the syntax (and sometimes the semantics) of TI
> BASIC diverges quite a bit from the various Microsoft BASIC variants.
>
> There are a few more BASICs that weren't derived from Microsoft BASIC.
> Atari had its own BASIC; the biggest difference that I recall was that it
> didn't support arrays of strings.  MS BASIC for the same machines, which
was
> also available in a different cartridge, does provide support for arrays
of
> strings.  I think Tandy rolled its own Color BASIC for the CoCo, but
> Extended Color BASIC identifies itself as a MS BASIC variant (I'm guessing
> this is the case as standard Color BASIC doesn't include the "under
license
> from MS" line in the boot message that Extended Color BASIC includes).
>
> That said, given the original post regarding PRINT 23+"23"+-23 and its
> result...shouldn't that come back with a type-mismatch error?  The +
> operator is overloaded, but you can't concatenate a string and a number
and
> you can't add them together.  Does Applesoft do something other than
report
> an error?  (I'm at work right now, so I can't fire up one of my IIs and
> check for myself.)
>
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