Re: Godel Goofed? Nope.

[Roy and/or Janet Miller <millers@inetnebr.com>]

olcott wrote:

> Roy and/or Janet Miller wrote:
>
> > Paul Schlyter wrote:
> >
> > > In article <3A8C972E.68BF3CD3@inetnebr.com>,
> > > Roy and/or Janet Miller  <millers@inetnebr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes, I do. However, since you have claimed that statements of Christ,
> > > > as recorded in scripture were the words of the evil one, that means
> > > > that you are a son of the father of lies.
> > >
> > > Both those who claim that the Bible is the "words of God" and those
> > > who claim it's the "words of Satan" are liars really.
> >
> > I don't make that claim. The Bible does: "All Scripture is given by
> > inspiration of God...." 2 Timothy 3:16, and "knowing this first, that no
>
> This is not at all one-and-the-same thing as the bible is
> the word of God... After seeing a beautiful sunset a man
> is inspired to write a great play about racial injustice...

Thank you for displaying your ignorance. The English word inspiration has both
definition and connotation. The Greek however, is more precise. Every Scripture
is breathed out (exhaled) by God; THAT is radically different from the idea that
a person has a feeling or a moving experience. I thought you were the guy who
believed in reasoning. Try doing some.

>
>
> >
> > prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation, for prophecy never
> > came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by
> > the Holy Spirit" 2 Peter 1:20-21, and "as also our beloved brother Paul,
> > according to the wisdom given to him, has written to you, as also in all
> > his epistles, speaking in them of these things, in which are some things
> > hard to understand, which untaught and unstable people twist to their own
> > destruction, as they do also the rest of the Scriptures" 2 Peter 3:15-16,
> > and finally, the most common phrase in the Old Testament is some form of
> > "The word of YHWH" Therefore:
> >
> > 1. Do not call men liars before you accurately understand what they mean by
> > what they say, otherwise you are a liar when you brand them so;
> > 2. Do not put yourself so quickly in the category of the above quote
> > "untaught and unstable who twist to their own destruction"
> > 3. The historic Christian position has always been that the Scripture are
> > both the words of men, and completely the Word of God. Thus, one can find
>
> Yet scripture itself does not directly support this position.
> Historically, everyone "knows" that Eve gave Adam an Apple,
> yet scripture does not support this either.

Babble. 1. Scripture does support that position. Any normal reading of the text
leads to that conclusion. Which is why, for 20 centuries, Christianity has held
that position. As for Eve and Adam, she did give him the fruit, but the Bible
NEVER says it was an apple.

Roy