Re: Asimov Site

[Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net>]

Roy and/or Janet Miller wrote:
> 
> Rex wrote:
> 
> >
> >     To be honest yours and the one before yours are the only two I
> > understood.  I feel like a 2 year old.  I read Quantum_Cat and it all went
> > right over my head.  (I'm pretty dumb I know.)
> 
> Hey Rex, don't feel dumb, you just don't have the context yet to understand the
> comments, that's all. So here's the context:
> 
> 1) Some (but not all) ftp/http sites have copyrighted software on them - this is
> a violation of the copyright laws.
> 2) Some one has contacted some (all?) of the companies that hosted those sites,
> pointing out that there are illegal copies of software offered through their
> hardware and net connections, and that this could make them liable for suit.
> 3) Some (all?) of those companies have pulled such sites, forcing those who like
> to offer such software to search for new locations. It is further alleged these
> individuals like to utilize the uninformed Apple II supporter to host such,
> while not being willing to do it themselves. On the other hand, it is asserted
> that those who have been contacting the ISPs are busybodies and overly concerned
> with the letter of the law.
> 
> All of the above, and it's moral, ethical, legal, and astrological
> justifications and consequences have been debated here for several centuries (or
> so it seems.)
> 
> I'm confident that my attempt to present the bare facts of the context will be
> responded to and another cycle will begin, because, even though I tried to
> present the facts in a neutral manner, since I'm not neutral, someone will feel
> compelled to dispute the above, and perhaps flame me.
 ....

     Flame? Nope. "Another new cycle"? Not likely; no need.

     First, as a check of sites like ...


Apple //c .dsk Archive (French)- //c info, ADT transfer info,
  Applesoft BASIC manual in PDF format, utility and game software
  in emulator Dsk form plus docs and screen pics; game solutions;
  excellent emulator guide with links
  http://www.multimania.com/apple2c/

Apple IIgs Gaming Memory Fairway- #1 archive of out-of-print
  commercial IIgs games in emulator .2mg and Apple II ShrinkIt form;
  includes info blurbs, pics, and hints
  http://www.inwards.com/~fairway/

Asimov-East Mirror ftp://f408a.fd.ntou.edu.tw/pub/apple_II/

The Vault- large archive of Apple II games in emulator disk image form
  http://www.classicgaming.com/vault/appleiiroms-AM.shtml

Uni-kl.de Apple2 U. Kaiserslautern- II/IIgs games, utilities, and
  emulator wares
  ftp://ftp.uni-kl.de/pub/apple2/

XGS- XGS emu info; extensive archive of out-of-print commercial IIgs
  software (mainly games) in emulator .2mg form; single-list 
  access with brief comments and file performance info.
  http://www.inwards.com/xgs/


and several others will show, most of the so-called "illegal" sites are operating just
fine.

     What will happen is this ...  One or more new Asimov sites will be established on
ISPs that care more about staying in business than pleasing whining emailers. Complaints
to these ISPs will simply bounce. The Law will do nothing because, contrary to your
claims, no law is being violated. You will be left to explain how it is that these
supposedly "illegal" sites (together with many other abandonware sites) continue to
operate freely and openly.



Rubywand