Re: A2 Trade/Swap ... site ...

[pausch@saafNOSPAM.se (Paul Schlyter)]

In article <8k5jch$8hm$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,  <bobryan9@my-deja.com> wrote:
 
> In article <8k1rpj$e90$1@merope.saaf.se>,
>   pausch@saafNOSPAM.se (Paul Schlyter) wrote:
>> In article <8k17qa$dqc$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,  <bobryan9@my-deja.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Apple Computer Inc. did not supply you with the ROM code on disk.
>>
>> Not true!  All Apple II+ ROM code was included on the BASICS disk
>> which was included in the Apple Pascal system.  When booting the
>> BASICS disk, it checked which language was the ROM language (Integer
>> or Applesoft) and then loaded the other language in the Language Card.
> 
> I didn't know that.
 
And the DOS 3.3 master loaded Integer Basic in the Language Card if
it was present -- which means it too did contain the Integer Basic
ROM code.
 
> There's one situation where the ROM code was supplied, to one of the
> oldest Apple II's built.  (apple I, Apple II, Apple II+, right?)
 
Which situation was that?
 
>> Then what about using disk images to boot DOS 3.3 ?  Isn't that just
>> as illegal, unless you once did buy the original DOS 3.3 disks?
> 
> According the the anti-piracy people, this is illegal, you are a pirate
> if you do it, you are a criminal if you do it, and you should go to
> prison.
 
False logic -- it's like saying "It's illegal to walk against a red
light, you are a criminal if you do it, and you should go to prison".
Not all crimes are punished by prison -- the U.S: prisons would have
to be hugely expanded of everyone who had comitted any crime would have
to go to prison.  All the rest would then have to work as guards on these
prisons, if they were enough of those people....
 
>> And why aren't Apple Computer suing?  As long as they don't, it
>> makes no practical difference whether it's legal or not.
> 
> True.  Same goes for all the old software too?  Or not?
 
As someone else pointed out in another post: "the software companies
don't sue for piracy because it's illegal -- they sue because piracy
makes them lose money".  Which means if they don't lose any money on
the piracy (e.g. when people copy the Applesoft ROM's), they won't
bother suing, becuase if they did sue, they'd just lose money on the
man-hours they'd need to spend on that case.
 
>> So instead of whining here about this, why don't you instead just
>> report it to Apple Computer?  Don't you think that would be a more
>> efficient way to stop these criminal activities?  No?
>>
> 
> It's not my business.  Apple Computer sucks, their OS sucks, and their
> new computers suck.
 
If so, why does it concern you whether people copy the APplesoft
ROM's or not?
 
> I'm not whining.  I'm trying to point out that there are alot of other
> copyright violations that could be put to a stop before all this noise
> happens on CSA2.
 
Indeed very true -- but it CSA2 really the right forum for that?  I
don't think so....
 
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