Re: Apple II Reference Manual ("Red Book")

[pausch@saafNOSPAM.se (Paul Schlyter)]

In article <20000422151336.12426.00002540@ng-fb1.aol.com>,
Regnirps <regnirps@aol.com> wrote:
 
> pausch@saafNOSPAM.se  (Paul Schlyter) wrote:
> Regnirps <regnirps@aol.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Well, I just remembered that the whole thing started when Paul brought up
>>> the American Religious Right so I think it was fair to talk in terms of
>>> US politics. I lot of Europeans think we think that way.
>  
>> A fair number of you do -- after all the Religious Right is stronger in
>> the US than in any European country.  You'll have to go to countries
>> with islamic governments to find a significantly stronger religious
>> fundamentalism.
> 
> Hmmm. I suppose Sweden has changed a lot since the days of Christian and
> Clergy dominance of the public concience.
 
Yep - Sweden is one of the most secularized countries in Europe.
 
> We on the other hand have a legacy of being the place to go for persecured
> minorities from the Puritans, Heuganauts, Pennsylvania Dutch, Irish Catholics,
> Amish, groups from India, Formosa, Pakistan, Cambodia, Viet Nam, Nicaragua,
> Mexico, Norweigians, Gypsies, and Canadians who need urgent medical care, it
> being illegal for Canadian doctors to treat people out of order in the waiting
> lists.
 
But how many of your priests are doctors as well?
 
>> But of course ALL americans aren't like that!  You're a big country
>> with big differences between different parts of the country.  In New
>> York City, for instance, I'd expect religious fundamentalism to be no
>> stronger than in any European city.
> 
> Depends on the section of the city. There are Jewish fundamentalists sections
> and areas nearly 100% Southern Baptist and other areas nearly all Roman
> Catholic.
 
I guess the same also applies to European cities....
 
> What you will find as well is the fairly new phenomena of what you might call
> anti-religion fundamentalists or religion haters. They are getting rather
> diminant in the media and entertainment fields.
 
That too is a kind of religion really.  Religion is about believing
things wihtout solid evidence.  And since solid evidence is lacking,
both pro and anti religion, anyone with a strong opinion about
religion is really a religious person, in one way or another.
 
>>> Maybe because they watch so much American TV
>  
>> Well, when you export so much TV you'll also export an image
>> of your cuntry - what else did you expect?
> 
> We export whatever people want, or think they want I should say.
 
Not excluding hard drugs, child pornography, classified information
and powerful weapons to terroriists?  :-)
 
>>> and so many American movies they are too busy to notice how many of
>>> the World's travelers are from the USA.
>  
>> I notice a fair share of them in Stockholm.  Seems like most
>> americans have a dream of going to Europe, just like most europeans
>> have a dream of going to the US.  The grass is always greener on the
>> other side of the pond.... :-)
>  
>>> I also wonder if they understand how independent the States are?
>  
>> Well we know THAT!  Some states have captal punishment (Texas is the
>> leader there, right?) while others dont.  Some states have fairly (to
>> american standards) strict gun laws while others have very little gun
>> restrictions.  Sometimes I wonder why you ever became united
>> states....
> 
> The uniting was rather loose in the beginning. Federalism really came into
> power under Lincoln and the War between the States. That is where "executive
> orders" came from and the power has never been revoked though the oportunity
> arises regularly.
 
Dod no state ever want to become independent from the United States?
There was a movement in Quebec to break out from Canada some decades
ago, wasn't it?
 
>> I saw the film "Bridges of Madison County" on TV the other week.
>> It was neither from NYC nor from LA, SF or Hawaii.....
> 
> Part was shot on location no doubt. That makes one.
> 
>> And my son loves "South Park".
> 
> You let your family watch South Park?
 
My wife and daughter aren't interested, and I don't watch it much
myself.  But I took my son to the movie -- it was a funny movie!
 
Face it -- you can't protect your kids from that "foul language".
It's there, and they'll hear it and hear about it, no matter what you
think about it and no matter how much you try to censor it away.
 
>> BTW it would be interesting to hear the typical american's
>> impression of TV and film from outside the US.  Any impression
>> at all?
> 
> I like most of what I see. I have seen a lot British TV, some
> good some pretty bad. I have seen a lot Japanese adventure/soap
> operas and samurai serries that are fun.
> 
> I have seen Indian entertainment TV and it makes no sense to me.
> 
> Mexican News has figured out that news readers just read the news.
> They use two pretty women and table instead of a desk so you can
> see their legs. It makes the high paid US talking head look rather silly.
> 
>>> I saw "Canadanistan" in an editorial cartoon and I liked it. It's
>>> that third world socialist country of the great white north with
>>> severe gun control, national health care with waiting lists, and
>>> full of Canadanistanians who insist on speaking in their strange
>>> tongue.
>> 
>> You got it backwards -- YOU are the one having a strange tongue,
>> not them.... :-)
> 
> So hoser, forgot your took ay?
 
Gung znxrf cresrpg frafr!!!
 
> Most of the Torries were driven out of the states after the
> revolution and went to Canada and Bermuda. We really need to
> do it again. Today's federalsts have the same basic ideology
> as the imperialists of the 1700's.
 
They aren't federalists -- they're imperialists, aren't they?
 
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