Re: Usenet Posts, P.D. or ?? = Thoughts or Court Ruling

["Quantum_Cat" <anonymous@cotse.com>]

Turley adds another chapter to his autobiography "Moby Dork" 
with:

 *> Joko replied:
 *> <re
 *> <Despite that, you continue to go out of your way to 
antagonize me by 
 *> <re-posting my words on your web site, without 
permission, month after 
 *> <month after month.
 *> <

 *> >>
 *> Adalbert Goertz responds >>>>>>>>>>>>
 *> >>
 *> <<Come on , Joe. I dont take you seriously.>>

 *> And I reply to your comment Adalbert:

And I reply to your reply to the comment by Adalbert: 

 *> You'd better take Joe seriously, if you know what's best 
for you within the
 *> Apple II community that is!  Joe is a very influential 
and very powerful
 *> person in the Apple II community.  When he decides to go 
for your throat
 *> (and he is very skilled at doing that too) - he seldom 
gives up until he's
 *> satisfied that he's performed a total and complete 
character assassination
 *> against you.  Take it from one who know first hand.  Joe 
has been

Obviously untrue.  You have no character to assassinate, Tom.

 *> responsible with endless email efforts to many, many A2 
users involved with
 *> me in any way - warning them that they should avoid any 
association with me
 *> in any way if they know what's best for them.  (I have a 
very hefty
 *> collection of emails from him to others to that effect 
archived and saved

You forg0t "forged", Charles...  You wouldn't want to forget 
all that effort that went into all that fabrication of 
evidence.  ;)

 *> also from over the past few years).  He even goes so far 
as to warn them
 *> that if they do continue to associate with me in any way  
- they will be
 *> looked down on by the people who make up the REAL SUPPORT 
within the A2
 *> world.  That's been an ongoing effort of his from 1993 to 
date.  

Well, we DO look down at you, Dr.  We may have to turn over a 
few rocks to find you, but...

 *> He also has done his very best to have Asimov removed 
from online access,
 *> without success.  But, has been successful with getting 
the removal of the
 *> original ACN site from online public access - several 
past Apple II ftp
 *> sites have also been removed per his direct abuse 
complaints to their ISP
 *> host, including one of my own (wco.com), which he's 
posted much
 *> misinformation over such reasoning also, I might add.

So, the lesson to pirates is to actually own the ISP where 
you place your illegal files in the sure knowledge that no 
one will contest those files presence?

 *> He's been very active with abuse complaints to my current 
ISP (grin.net) 
 *> also, trying to get my entire web site removed from 
public access.  But,
 *> like the Adm. of Asimov, he's been so persistent with 
abuse complaints that
 *> have no valid basis to them - my ISP ignores his 
complaints now. And,
 *> there's nothing of an illegal nature that remains on my 
web site concerning
 *> Joe anyway.

Hmmm... Interesting.. If Joe's complaints are filtered, I 
wonder if other folks complaints will make it..

 *> Yes, indeed Adalbert, Joe is a very powerful and 
influential person within
 *> the Apple II community.  Never doubt that fact.  You 
never want to cross
 *> his bad side or vengeful nature with anything or you will 
deeply regret
 *> having done so.
 *>  He's also very capable at motivating and promoting the 
creation of,
 *> contributions to and continuations of hate web sites 
against individuals
 *> and Apple II groups such as those hosted by Brutal Deluxe 
and Richard
 *> Bennett against me and the 1WSW group.

Oh, Turley... Don't accuse Joe of motivating those sites... 
You did that all by yourself.  If you make a clown of 
yourself, you will be parodied. :)

 *> So, you have been warned Adalbert, if you don't take Joe 
seriously he can
 *> and will try to make your existence within the Apple II 
community a living
 *> hell, if you ignore his powerful influence over others 
that he's so skilled
 *> with engineering.

Hmmm... I think you're confused here, Charles... I'm sure 
being you would BE a "living hell", but the blame would rest 
with your mother, not Joe...

 *> I've made it clear to everybody, that I wish no harm 
towards Joe or the A2
 *> world in general.  Although I'm a very outspoken person 
that will not be

Of COURSE, you don't wish harm to the A2 world in general.  
Your actions only harm those who have actually _Contributed_ 
something to the A2 world by writing programs, posted 
valuable information to the newsgroups, or built the 
knowledge base that _YOU_ leech off of.

 *> intimidated or mitigated to go against what I believe to 
be right, by
 *> anybody, including Joe. 

Well, by now it's obvious that you do indeed set yourself 
above the regular law abiding citizen, Tom.  Forgive me if I 
sprinkle a little shit on your Godhood.  ;)

 *> He's certainly done his very best to attempt this with me 
over the years,
 *> in more ways than I care to even begin to outline here.  
Yet, I remain as a
 *> respected and useful contributing member of the general 
A2 world today by

Respected...  Heh...  (DEF: to consider worthy of high 
regard)... Strike One

Useful...  Heh... (DEF: capable in being employed in 
accomplishing something good)  Strike Two  (although, being 
biodegradable might be considered a useful Turley event if we 
could convince bacteria to come close to you..

Contributing... Heh... (DEF: To give or supply)  Well... The 
whole POINT is you shouldn't give what isn't yours.  That's 
stealing... not contributing...

 *> many others, despite his efforts to implement my exit.  

Say... If I give you $1,000,000 would you exit?

 *> Much like Nathan Mates, who also tried his very best to 
rid the A2 world of
 *> me, only to go mad with hate to the point he himself 
abandoned it in a fit
 *> of insane, vulgar and nonlogical rage - Joe has the same 
skills and

Yeah.. that was a shame.  Nathan was infinitely better than 
you.  So... Let's not hate you!  Let's poke FUN at you!  It's 
healthier that way, and might just bring a little joy to 
folks!

 *> capacity to generate hate and campaign tactics to destroy 
people he doesn't
 *> want around - that can be compared in many ways with the 
same powerful and
 *> misguided methods used by Hitler against the Jews in 
WWII.  

Gee... Doesn't Godwin's Law state that "if you mention Hitler 
or Nazis in a post, you've automatically lose whatever 
discussion you were taking part in"?

Sorry, Loser.


 *> So, knowing you as I do and knowing Joe as I do - I 
suggest you DO take Joe
 *> seriously, unless you want to take the chance of having 
to go through the
 *> same things I've gone through over the years in this A2 
community, as a
 *> result of Joe's efforts to assassinate my efforts and 
character in public
 *> and private.

Adalbert's already demonstrated his character, Dr.  He's 
small fry, and a dimmer bulb than yourself.  ;)

 *> But, Joe has not made my life within the A2 world a 
living hell with his
 *> efforts, as much as he's tried too.  I don't fear Joe.  I 
pity Joe more

Ah...  It's refreshing to see that Joe's efforts haven't been 
wasted.

And Turley Pity...  That's a laugh!

 *> than anything now.  I'm happy and content to offer 
whatever I'm able to for
 *> the general needs of all A2 users worldwide, freely and 
without constrains
 *> or restrictions imposed on me by the actions taken 
against me from Joe and
 *> those he has convinced to join him in such efforts.

It must be nice to have no morals, ethical feelings, and 
such.  Being a sociopath must be so carefree and 
invigorating!  Steal where you will, when you will.  Lie with 
a straight face.  Con folks repeatedly  (most humans are 
soooo gullible.)

Oh well.  I won't be letting you babysit my hamsters.  ;)

Au revoir, vous imb�cile s'infectant.

Quantum_Cat

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