Re: Usenet Posts, P.D. or ?? = Thoughts or Court Ruling

[cturley2@aol.com (Cturley2)]

Joko replied:
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<Despite that, you continue to go out of your way to antagonize me by 
<re-posting my words on your web site, without permission, month after 
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Adalbert Goertz responds >>>>>>>>>>>>
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<<Come on , Joe. I dont take you seriously.>>

And I reply to your comment Adalbert:

You'd better take Joe seriously, if you know what's best for you within the
Apple II community that is!  Joe is a very influential and very powerful person
in the Apple II community.  When he decides to go for your throat (and he is
very skilled at doing that too) - he seldom gives up until he's satisfied that
he's performed a total and complete character assassination against you.  Take
it from one who know first hand.  Joe has been responsible with endless email
efforts to many, many A2 users involved with me in any way - warning them that
they should avoid any association with me in any way if they know what's best
for them.  (I have a very hefty collection of emails from him to others to that
effect archived and saved also from over the past few years).  He even goes so
far as to warn them that if they do continue to associate with me in any way  -
they will be looked down on by the people who make up the REAL SUPPORT within
the A2 world.  That's been an ongoing effort of his from 1993 to date.  

He also has done his very best to have Asimov removed from online access,
without success.  But, has been successful with getting the removal of the
original ACN site from online public access - several past Apple II ftp sites
have also been removed per his direct abuse complaints to their ISP host,
including one of my own (wco.com), which he's posted much misinformation over
such reasoning also, I might add.

He's been very active with abuse complaints to my current ISP (grin.net) 
also, trying to get my entire web site removed from public access.  But, like
the Adm. of Asimov, he's been so persistent with abuse complaints that have no
valid basis to them - my ISP ignores his complaints now.
And, there's nothing of an illegal nature that remains on my web site
concerning Joe anyway.

Yes, indeed Adalbert, Joe is a very powerful and influential person within the
Apple II community.  Never doubt that fact.  You never want to cross his bad
side or vengeful nature with anything or you will deeply regret having done so.
 He's also very capable at motivating and promoting the creation of,
contributions to and continuations of hate web sites against individuals and
Apple II groups such as those hosted by Brutal Deluxe and Richard Bennett
against me and the 1WSW group.

So, you have been warned Adalbert, if you don't take Joe seriously he can and
will try to make your existence within the Apple II community a living hell, if
you ignore his powerful influence over others that he's so skilled with
engineering.

I've made it clear to everybody, that I wish no harm towards Joe or the A2
world in general.  Although I'm a very outspoken person that will not be
intimidated or mitigated to go against what I believe to be right, by anybody,
including Joe. 

He's certainly done his very best to attempt this with me over the years,
in more ways than I care to even begin to outline here.  Yet, I remain as a
respected and useful contributing member of the general A2 world today by many
others, despite his efforts to implement my exit.  

Much like Nathan Mates, who also tried his very best to rid the A2 world of me,
only to go mad with hate to the point he himself abandoned it in a fit of
insane, vulgar and nonlogical rage - Joe has the same skills and capacity to
generate hate and campaign tactics to destroy people he doesn't want around -
that can be compared in many ways with the same powerful and misguided methods
used by Hitler against the Jews in WWII.  






So, knowing you as I do and knowing Joe as I do - I suggest you DO take Joe
seriously, unless you want to take the chance of having to go through the same
things I've gone through over the years in this A2 community,
as a result of Joe's efforts to assassinate my efforts and character in public
and private.

But, Joe has not made my life within the A2 world a living hell with his
efforts, as much as he's tried too.  I don't fear Joe.  I pity Joe more than
anything now.  I'm happy and content to offer whatever I'm able to for the
general needs of all A2 users worldwide, freely and without constrains or
restrictions imposed on me by the actions taken against me from Joe and those
he has convinced to join him in such efforts.

Cheers,
Tom