Re: You guys are NUTS !

[CUTblakeney@home.com (Jeff Blakeney)]

On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:16:14 -0600, Phoenyx <quazar@dcnet2000.com>
wrote:

>I agree with you, mostly. The GS and the Apple Toolbox have a steep
>learning curve. It's not so much that they are hard, just that they
>are different from what most of us are used to.

The biggest problem is that there are just so many toolbox calls but
some of them are now obsolete (replaced by newer versions) and some
are called by other toolbox routines so you don't need to access them
yourself.  This cuts down the number quite a bit but it can still be
pretty daunting.

>There is nothing that says you have to follow these guide lines, yeah
>I know, people will b*tch about this statement. However, if you want
>compatibility with other software, you should try. At the very least,
>make sure that your programs won't harm anything else in the system
>and then follow the FTA methods.

Well, I and many others would definitely encourage anyone writing new
code to follow the standards.  This ensures that their program will
work on both ROM 01 and ROM 3 and the couple ROM 4 machines out there
as well as on emulators.

Personally, I also haven't given up on the idea that a IIgs compatible
motherboard might come into existence at some point in time.  :-)

>Now if you just want simple programs, try Orca C or maybe the EMBE
>Modula2 compiler. For the Modula2 system you will need an Orca Linker
>and maybe the shell. As I have the Pascal system, it works fine for
>me. With these, you can mix in assembly as needed.

Why not use Orca/Modula2?  It works within the Orca shell just like
all the other languages available for it so there is no need to find a
separate linker.

Just so everyone knows, these are the languages available for the Orca
system:

     Orca/M
     Orca/C
     Orca/Pascal
     Orca/Modula2
     Orca/Integer BASIC

There is also GSoft BASIC that can be used from the Orca shell but
there is no compiler for it so you can't link code from it with the
other languages.

All these great programming languages and more Apple II stuff is
available from the Byte Works.  For more information, check out:

     http://www.byteworks.org

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