Re: Pirates of Silicon Valley

[Mike <moose@rocknet.net.au>]

IHXO wrote:

> MIKE, your facts are really damn straight, you've used 3 paragraphs to emphasis
> one point.. So what.
> Who developed first is not the problem the problem is Xerox didn't have the
> vision to see the future.
> And well, I doubt that if Bill Gates saw that GUI Xerox developed will
> have any
> interested, because at that time computer uses Text command to operate
> he won't
> see the potential of GUI.
> Bill Gates want GUI because they see how cool it is on the Mac, and they see
> that people like GUI, so they started to develope windows.
>
> mike i am not sure what are you here for, are you here to flame the news group
> ?? because you sound really sound RUDE to me.

Which Mike are you referring to ?

If you mean Mike <Moose> O'Malley (me) then I suggest you re-read what I wrote.

I am simply here to add more information and balance to what some people write, and
to join in the discussions that interest me or annoy the hell out of me.  It's a
free world, isn't it ?

If you think I am rude, then let me explain.

I consider that people who are attempting to pervert / twist the past to say that
Apple invented the GUI, or who slag off Microsoft or Intel for no valid reason
should really have the facts pointed out to you.

If the truth hurts you - or if you do not like to have the truth pointed out to you
- that is your bad luck.

Open your eyes - switch of your MAC - and have a *real* look around.

Mike O'Malley

>
> Mike wrote:
>
> > Mike Pike wrote:
> >
> > > That's not entirely true.... apple had started their own GUI at the same
> > > time, if not before Xerox.... they simply used Xerox to show Jobs what it
> > > was capable of doing - or so I am told...
> >
> > Where do you get this from ?
> >
> > According to the words from Steve Jobs and Woz's own mouths - they were
> > absolutely *blown* away when they saw Xerox's GUI, and they dragged half of
> > the Apple engineers down to PARC soon after to see a GUI for the **first**
> > time.
> >
> > Suggesting that Apple engineers / programmers were already working on a GUI
> > *before* Xerox started working on theirs is simply utter bullshit.  According
> > to Cringeley's book and other books I have read, Xerox had the Alto built and
> > the GUI developed *before* Apple was even formed.
> >
> > Suggesting that Apple engineers / programmers were already working on a GUI
> > before Jobs became aware of the Xerox GUI is also simply utter bullshit.
> >
> > Get your facts straight !
> >
> > Mike O'Malley
> >
> > > Scott R. Ehrlich (sehrlich@shore.net) wrote:
> > > : Let's not forget some basic facts from the past:
> > > :
> > > : - Mac got its GUI start from Xerox PARC, because Xerox could not market
> > > : their inventions (including the mouse)
> > > :
> > > : - Gates got his start from buying CP/M and modifying it into DOS for the
> > > : consumer market
> > > :
> > > :
> > > : At least Apple built their Apple II series computers (from scratch?).
> > > : Gates flat-out took what existed and modified it.
> > > :
>
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