Re: CDR's & MP3 for GS???

[spec@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector)]

In article supertimer@aol.com (Supertimer) writes...

>Well first of all, you don't want to SHK archive it.
>That would make it just as boring as the Golden
>Orchard.  You want it to be bootable.  Or at least
>executable from the Finder.

    You have a point there, but how fast is it booting or
loading data _directly_ off a 1X or 2X speed drive? This
is what the vast majority of Apple IIgs users have hooked
up to their systems (those with drives in the first place).
I know faster drives are cheaper these days, but they're
not necessarily faster when used on a IIgs.

    I heard CD-ROM speed bottlenecks out at around 4X
(600K transfer rate). Any person I've spoken to who has
a CD-ROM drive on their IIgs system, has said they move
the data to their hardrive first before working with it.

>That's just his CD burner.  I'm sure there are different
>types, just like there are different types of laser
>printers.  There might be some with internal CPUs
>that do most of the work.  Who knows.

    Well I've yet to hear anyone step in and claim it is
possible so far, even in theory. So, does someone want to 
and talk about the feasibility of CD-R drives on a IIgs,
assuming there is any?

>I see both your brother and you have Intel units. I
>prefer non-Intel units myself.  Even though I'm an
>IBM/Cyrix fan, I'd go AMD before stooping to Intel. ;-)

    I use whatever works best, my last system used an AMD 5x86
processor and this time I'm using an Intel Pentium-150 chip,
overclocked to 166 MHz. I don't care for boycotting hardware
or software simply because of the company who makes it. I know
a lot of people boycotted Nathan Mates' software, though that
meant not using Swatterdisk or GUPP, which are must have IMO.

    Now if Intel started doing product testing on animals, then
I'd consider boycotting the purchase of their products. ;-)

>>    One last thing, before you label me as anti-IIgs person
>>once again, I would *love* to see someone write a game or
>>program that uses several hundred megabytes of data and ships
>>on a CD. I enjoy seeing the IIgs pushed to do things not
>>imagined before, and it would encourage me to track down an
>>external SCSI CD-ROM drive for my system (DiscQuest and 5 or
>>6 discs filled with only SHK archives hasn't been enough
>>incentive for me so far).
>
>Glad to know.  You might want to look at older one
>or two speed models.  These are pretty cheap these
>days.  Maybe even a few bucks if you find a Mac
>user throwing them out.

    Right now it is more an issue of a lack of free space on my
desk than cost (I'm sure I could find an old Apple CDSC, CD150
or even CD300 for under $20). :)

    Another thing I forgot to mention in this thread, I noticed
certain burned CD's (specifically the color of the disc) have
trouble reading in some drives. This is unlike pressed (silver
colored) discs which will read in all drives. When I shopped
for a 24X drive to install in my PC, I made sure it could read
all the colors out there (it took a lot of searching too).

Mitchell Spector
spec@vax2.concordia.ca