Re: 3.5 Disk Superdrive Controller Card Apple IIe,IIgs New

[Polymorph <mike.a.stephens@gmail.com>]

On Sep 21, 4:30 am, Warren Ernst <wer...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sep 20, 7:43 am, Vapor <macarim...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Sep 20, 3:10 am, Drew <goggled...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On 20 Sep, 03:38, Polymorph <mike.a.steph...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Sep 20, 11:47 am, Warren Ernst <wer...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Sep 19, 5:37 pm, Polymorph <mike.a.steph...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Sep 20, 10:15 am, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:
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> > > > > > > Rich Hare wrote:
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> > > > > > > > I pulled a CSOB move.  Instead of adding one to my IIGS, I bought a
> > > > > > > > pizza box Mac which has a drive built in.  When I need to, I can use Mac
> > > > > > > > disks, PC disks or ProDos disks in the Mac, and then transfer files to
> > > > > > > > the IIGS via Appletalk.  A little slower and more cumbersome, but
> > > > > > > > definitely cheaper.
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> > > > > > > Here, here. That's the same thing that I do. I find that a desktop Power Mac
> > > > > > > G3 (the one with built-in serial ports) fits the bill quite nicely and
> > > > > > > frequently serves as an AppleShare server for the IIgs.
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> > > > > > > If I were to get a 3.5" disk system, it would definitely be for the IIe. I'm
> > > > > > > fine with 800k disks on the IIgs. I managed to squeeze System 6 and
> > > > > > > Marinetti onto one!
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> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and Macintosh
> > > > > > > computing.http://macgui.com/vault/
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> > > > > > Alternatively, if you have a CFFA/Microdrive/Focus, you can get an IDE-
> > > > > > to-CompactFlash converter off eBay (really cheap) and mount the CF
> > > > > > card externally. By having external access to the CF card, you can
> > > > > > easily remove the CF card from the Apple II and use Ciderpress and a
> > > > > > card reader in a PC. Doing this you can copy files directly onto the
> > > > > > CF card which eliminates the need for floppy disks or an Appletalk
> > > > > > connection. This is *much* faster than any other solution I am aware
> > > > > > of. You can easily copy entire hard disk images, or individual files
> > > > > > onto the CF card with a few simple clicks and then stick the CF card
> > > > > > back into the Apple and away you go.
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> > > > > > That's how I do things anyhow.  :-)
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> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Mike
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> > > > > Except that you have to power down the Apple II to remove the CF card
> > > > > to read it in the PC, right?  (Well, that's what I do.) And then
> > > > > reboot.
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> > > > Yes, this is true - you do need to power down the Apple II, so perhaps
> > > > for single file transfers, the Superdrive might have the edge.
> > > > However, considering my accelerated IIgs boots in under 30 seconds, by
> > > > the time you've written the file(s) to a floppy and read it/them from
> > > > the floppy, I reckon it would still be reasonably close. If someone
> > > > were to "give" me a Superdrive controller, I'd be more than happy to
> > > > do some tests.  ;-)
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> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Mike
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> > > I find the uthernet with safe ftp has been the most convienant way to
> > > transfer files..I have a superdrive and can't remember the last time i
> > > used that tbh.
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> > > Drew
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> > I'm with you Drew.  I use the Uther card to do all of my
> > transferring.  I use FTP for most transfers, and ADTPro for others
> > (when they are pure disk images).  I have a superdrive and controller
> > and haven't even installed them yet :)
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> Actually, I also agree with you (which therefore means I disagree with
> myself - DOH). When I'm under GSOS, then my Uthernet and FTP is the
> way to go. That said, you'd be amazed how much I'm still doing 8-bit
> stuff, meaning the SuperDrive still gets used more than you'd think.
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> -Warr

Hehe... well I only got a Uthernet recently, but I too have to agree
for single or small batches of files, I'll probably be doing this as
well. I've already setup an ftp server on my local network that hosts
a whole bunch of Apple II disk images. So, yeah I agree too - I guess
we're all in agreement on this one!  :-)

<off_topic>
Just out of curiosity, what sort of transfer speed do you guys get. I
did some testing the other night and found that I was getting about
6kb/s when transferring files via FTP using Safe. I have a 12.5MHz Zip
GSX installed, and noticed that both the slot my CFFA and the slot the
Uthernet was installed in were set to "slow" in the Zip GSX control
panel. I changed both slots to "fast" and noticed the transfer speed
jump up to about 10kb/s. Is this comparable to what others are
getting?
</off_topic>

Cheers,
Mike