Re: 3.5 Disk Superdrive Controller Card Apple IIe,IIgs New

[Drew <goggledrew@gmail.com>]

On 21 Sep, 20:42, "a2retro" <a2re...@a2central.com.remove-si5-this>
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>   To: Drew
> On 9/21/2010 12:06 PM, Drew wrote:
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> > On 21 Sep, 00:11, Polymorph<mike.a.steph...@gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> On Sep 21, 4:30 am, Warren Ernst<wer...@gmail.com>  wrote:
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> >>> On Sep 20, 7:43 am, Vapor<macarim...@gmail.com>  wrote:
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> >>>> On Sep 20, 3:10 am, Drew<goggled...@gmail.com>  wrote:
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> >>>>> On 20 Sep, 03:38, Polymorph<mike.a.steph...@gmail.com>  wrote:
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> >>>>>> On Sep 20, 11:47 am, Warren Ernst<wer...@gmail.com>  wrote:
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> >>>>>>> On Sep 19, 5:37 pm, Polymorph<mike.a.steph...@gmail.com>  wrote:
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> >>>>>>>> On Sep 20, 10:15 am, dog_...@macgui.com (D Finnigan) wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>> Rich Hare wrote:
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> >>>>>>>>>> I pulled a CSOB move.  Instead of adding one to my IIGS, I bought a
> >>>>>>>>>> pizza box Mac which has a drive built in.  When I need to, I can use Mac
> >>>>>>>>>> disks, PC disks or ProDos disks in the Mac, and then transfer files to
> >>>>>>>>>> the IIGS via Appletalk.  A little slower and more cumbersome, but
> >>>>>>>>>> definitely cheaper.
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> >>>>>>>>> Here, here. That's the same thing that I do. I find that a desktop Power Mac
> >>>>>>>>> G3 (the one with built-in serial ports) fits the bill quite nicely and
> >>>>>>>>> frequently serves as an AppleShare server for the IIgs.
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> >>>>>>>>> If I were to get a 3.5" disk system, it would definitely be for the IIe. I'm
> >>>>>>>>> fine with 800k disks on the IIgs. I managed to squeeze System 6 and
> >>>>>>>>> Marinetti onto one!
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> >>>>>>>>> Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and Macintosh
> >>>>>>>>> computing.http://macgui.com/vault/
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> >>>>>>>> Alternatively, if you have a CFFA/Microdrive/Focus, you can get an IDE-
> >>>>>>>> to-CompactFlash converter off eBay (really cheap) and mount the CF
> >>>>>>>> card externally. By having external access to the CF card, you can
> >>>>>>>> easily remove the CF card from the Apple II and use Ciderpress and a
> >>>>>>>> card reader in a PC. Doing this you can copy files directly onto the
> >>>>>>>> CF card which eliminates the need for floppy disks or an Appletalk
> >>>>>>>> connection. This is *much* faster than any other solution I am aware
> >>>>>>>> of. You can easily copy entire hard disk images, or individual files
> >>>>>>>> onto the CF card with a few simple clicks and then stick the CF card
> >>>>>>>> back into the Apple and away you go.
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> >>>>>>>> That's how I do things anyhow.  :-)
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> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>> Mike
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> >>>>>>> Except that you have to power down the Apple II to remove the CF card
> >>>>>>> to read it in the PC, right?  (Well, that's what I do.) And then
> >>>>>>> reboot.
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> >>>>>> Yes, this is true - you do need to power down the Apple II, so perhaps
> >>>>>> for single file transfers, the Superdrive might have the edge.
> >>>>>> However, considering my accelerated IIgs boots in under 30 seconds, by
> >>>>>> the time you've written the file(s) to a floppy and read it/them from
> >>>>>> the floppy, I reckon it would still be reasonably close. If someone
> >>>>>> were to "give" me a Superdrive controller, I'd be more than happy to
> >>>>>> do some tests.  ;-)
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> >>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>> Mike
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> >>>>> I find the uthernet with safe ftp has been the most convienant way to
> >>>>> transfer files..I have a superdrive and can't remember the last time i
> >>>>> used that tbh.
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> >>>>> Drew
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> >>>> I'm with you Drew.  I use the Uther card to do all of my
> >>>> transferring.  I use FTP for most transfers, and ADTPro for others
> >>>> (when they are pure disk images).  I have a superdrive and controller
> >>>> and haven't even installed them yet :)
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> >>> Actually, I also agree with you (which therefore means I disagree with
> >>> myself - DOH). When I'm under GSOS, then my Uthernet and FTP is the
> >>> way to go. That said, you'd be amazed how much I'm still doing 8-bit
> >>> stuff, meaning the SuperDrive still gets used more than you'd think.
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> >>> -Warr
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> >> Hehe... well I only got a Uthernet recently, but I too have to agree
> >> for single or small batches of files, I'll probably be doing this as
> >> well. I've already setup an ftp server on my local network that hosts
> >> a whole bunch of Apple II disk images. So, yeah I agree too - I guess
> >> we're all in agreement on this one!  :-)
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> >> <off_topic>
> >> Just out of curiosity, what sort of transfer speed do you guys get. I
> >> did some testing the other night and found that I was getting about
> >> 6kb/s when transferring files via FTP using Safe. I have a 12.5MHz Zip
> >> GSX installed, and noticed that both the slot my CFFA and the slot the
> >> Uthernet was installed in were set to "slow" in the Zip GSX control
> >> panel. I changed both slots to "fast" and noticed the transfer speed
> >> jump up to about 10kb/s. Is this comparable to what others are
> >> getting?
> >> </off_topic>
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> >> Cheers,
> >> Mike
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> > I get 9-11k on my TWGS running at 10mhz.
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> Have you tried saving to a ram disk. Not much point if your only going
> to be writing a disk image right after but if they are zip files and you
> are going to unpack them anyway ....

The speed isn't a problem for me was just letting Polymorph what i
get :).

Drew