Re: who has uploaded EXPRESS etc?

[Dave Morrison <deth@healey.com.au>]

Yeah....I think your statements below would be exactly what anyone
would expect from someone like you, Kohn. If someone's views or belief
differs from yours, silence them through moderation. And I was the one
called a fascist in this group the other day by one of your mates!!!!
You make me laugh.

You stated in one of your other posts that if anyone was serious about
the Apple ][, move to genie etc. Well if genie and the others are so
perfect and loving, why dont you stay there???

If you need a moderated Apple ][ group so bad, start up
comp.sys.apple2.moderated, then the people that want a politically
correct newsgroup can have it. The rest of us that like to have free
thoughts and beliefs of their own can stay here. We don't need big
brother.

Dave




Joe Kohn wrote:

> >> All moderation will do is reduce the already anemic number of
> posts.
>
> Moderation is the ONLY way to prevent a repeat of commercial Apple
> IIGS
> software from being posted to the csa2* hierarchy.
>
> It's also the only way to get rid of the spam, the personal attacks,
> the
> flame wars, and the outright lies that are being propagated here on
> csa2
> by just a handful of rotten apples.
>
> The Apple II areas on CompuServe, Delphi and Genie - when compared
> to
> csa2 - are like night and day. On those services, people are
> friendly and
> there is a real sense of community. Those areas are supportive of
> Apple
> II developers, not hostile like on csa2. People there have fun being
>
> online, unlike here.
>
> Thousands of helpful and friendly Apple II users are so disgusted
> and
> outraged by the antics of csa2 that they simply stay away from here.
>
> So, as I see it, we can all sink to the same level as the few rotten
>
> Apples, or we can take steps to insure that csa2 joins the rest of
> the
> Apple II community. csa2 is, in its current state, an out-cast from
> that
> Apple II community, and in some ways, csa2 is like the feeble
> step-son
> that's hidden away in the attic.
>
> Since The Saint covered his tracks so well, no action can be taken
> against him, although anyone with an IQ of 14 or above knows exactly
> who
> that low-life really is. So, if you have a problem with the csa2
> moderation movement, you know who to blame.
>
> A few years back, csa2 voted to break up into a number of different
> newsgroups. There is a set procedure for newsgroup decision making,
> and
> there is a time frame for discusion before the final vote is taken.
>
> As agreed by every single Apple II developer in attendance at Kfest,
> we
> need to get the ball rolling on this immediately. Since I have
> Shareware
> Solutions II to run, I would like to ask for volunteers to locate
> the
> materials that outline the voting procedures, other volunteers to
> write
> up the proposals, etc.
>
> If others are as disgusted with csa2 as I am, please contact me. I
> will
> be more than happy to coordinate the effort, so that there's not too
> much
> duplication of effort.
>
> In any case, it's obvious that we need either moderation or a little
>
> frontier justice.
>
> I for one will never bow down to the thieves, pirates and
> terrorists. You
> may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
>
> It's time for Apple II usenet users to do a little house-cleaning.
> It's time for decent and honest Apple II users to reclaim csa2.
>
> Joe