Re: (Most of) you people deserve each other.....

[shack@deimos.frii.com (Randy Shackelford)]

In article <bjbear-ya023680002404971444240001@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net>,
B.J. Major & Dennis J. Gorin <bjbear@ibm.net> wrote:
>Goodbye to csa2.  I came to this group over a year ago to share information
>and enthusiasm for the Apple II, left a few months after that because the
>same B.S. existed then as it exists now.  I rejoined again recently--hoping
>things had changed.  But I see they haven't.  In fact, they are somewhat
>worse in many respects.  It's too bad, really.

You're right, there's precious little enthusiasm to be found here. Most
of what you find is the woe-is-us-evil-Apple-rooked-us-when-they-decided-
to-introduce-new-products piss and moan. That's definitely tiresome and
could drive away new readers. I started reading this group when it was
still named comp.sys.apple, around the time I got my shiny new signature
edition IIgs. Sure was different in those days. I suspect that a lot of
the whiners here were still sucking their thumbs and crapping their 
diapers when Apple IIIs and Lisas were in stores. Or at least still had
training wheels on their bikes. It's a head scratcher to me how they presume
to be such shrewd analysts of the state of the computer industry in those 
days. In any event, back in the comp.sys.apple days, people were too busy
using their equipment and exchanging ideas to sit around and gripe. Of course,
those were the days when only colleges, big companies, and the precious few
commercial ISPs were on the net. But that's the subject of another lament.

>I feel badly for those who are new Apple 2 users and would say this to
>them:  be careful what you say here, unless you want to get flamed for
>being a human being.  And if you are a woman like myself, you will REALLY
>have to be careful what you say here.
>
>To those who have personally emailed me answers to questions I have asked,
>thank you.  I don't lump you in with these others, but I have to say that
>overall--the tone of this group is extremely depressing and *certainly* not
>a "celebration" of the Apple II.  In fact, it's anything but.  It's more
>like an endless gripe session.

All I can say is if you abandon the group to the whiners, you've let them
take over and no useful info will ever be seen here. That's one reason why
I still hang out here.
-- 
Randy Shackelford                                 
shack@frii.com