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Re: FS: APPLE IIGS

edhou@leland.stanford.edu (Eddie Hou) wrote,
in response to Jack Dempsey,
>so basically, a IIGS system is worth more than some Pentium and
>PowerMac systems???
>
>-Eddie

No, Eddie.  Like I said, it depends on where you look.

Also, if you read the GS system he sold, you'd realize that it is
more than the GS you get from an auction.  That hard drive is an
SCSI hard drive in an external case.  You could use it on a Mac or
PC just fine.  Those 4 megs of memory?  If the GS is using a Pacemark,
Q-RAM, OctoRAM, or Sirius card to hold it, then that memory is in
the form of SIMMs.  You could reclaim that too.  That Zip Card?  It
holds static RAM chips, often around 15ns in speed.  You could use
those to expand your '486 computer's cache if you want (about the
right speed, too).  Heck, that 19200 modem (US-Robotics HST or Dual
Standard, if I'm not mistaken) is worth at least $30-$50 and will
run on your Mac or PC.  What about the ADB keyboard and ADB mouse?
The GS uses ADB devices which run on Macs.



Jailall <jjailall@SPAMmindspring.com> wrote,
in response to Eddie Hou
>> so basically, a IIGS system is worth more than some Pentium and
>>PowerMac systems???
>
>That's waht I'm saying. 2 dollars for a IIGS is very fair. You have to
>be a complete idiot to buy a IIGS for $600. That means I could sell my
>LC for what...$800 to $1000. Yeah right. in the catalogs, they will
>buy your LC for $300.
>
>Robert
>--
>To reply, remove the "SPAM" from the return address, and e-mail to
>what's left. (jjailall@mindspring.com)

Robert, read what Jack wrote.  He is selling a GS _SYSTEM_ that has
all the peripherals.  Even if you don't value the GS, those peripherals
will run on _ANY_ computer.  No one is going to sell that system for
a few bucks.  Even if you hate the GS, let see what you get:

An analog RGB screen, good for your Amiga computer; someone on csa2
        just posted buying one through the AOL classifieds for $50.
A genuine Apple standard ADB keyboard, could fetch $10-$20 by itself.
An ADB mouse (same as Mac), heck that's worth a couple of bucks at least.
The 19200 US Robotics HST or Dual Standard modem...at least $40.
GS memory card w/4 megs in SIMM memory...call it $40.  You can use
        the memory in other computers, if you want.
The Zip GS accelerator...you could sell it to another GS user for
        $80 or more if it is a faster model, which are still in
        demand.  You can also use the 15ns SRAM chips in PC computers.
Disk drives: $25 each, four drives total ($100).
The SCSI interface card: $80.
The GS: since the SUN remarketing catalog handles the GS for $229, we'll
(CPU)   use $175...that's what EGO Systems were selling their surplus
        office GS machines for, and that was a steal.
Several hundred megabytes of software, with manuals: the rest.
        (before you go off on a rant, you see these softwares sell for
        $10-$30 each when sold separately in the csa2.marketplace
        newsgroup)


There's your system, Robert.  You have to see the system as a whole.
Of course if everyone had a problem with the GS, the seller could
always break the system apart and sell the individual parts (the
monitor, keyboard, mouse, memory, modem, cache, 3.5" drives, and
hard disk are not "GS only").  Even if you pull out the $200 GS
CPU completely, the peripherals would still be worth more than your
absurd $2 estimate!  Oh, and the GS has a 32-oscillator wavetable
synthesis chip, the Ensoniq 5503.  If you really hated the GS, but
wanted to repair that Ensoniq Mirage or Ensoniq ESQ-1 synthesizer
keyboard you have, you can use the GS's chip as parts.

Another thing is that many GS printers are DeskJets and DeskWriters.
I suppose you'd say that once a DeskWriter 600 color printer is
connected to a GS, suddenly, it contributes no value to the system?

I picked up a 25MHz '486 with no memory and a busted hard disk
for $25 at a garage sale because the owners thought it was useless
and irrevocably broken.  Does that mean that after I finish putting
in a working hard disk and 8MB of RAM that the '486 is still worth
$25?  Does it mean that the true market value for a '486 is $25?
Heck no!

To see what a refurbished GS system costs, point your web browser
to the following URLs:

http://www.allelec.com/
http://www.sunrem.com/

Both these companies are reputable.

-Scott G.