Re: Piracy

[skaratso@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Stavros Robert Karatsoridis)]

Donald Lee (leed@sfsu.edu) wrote:
: Hi,

: 	Sorry Joe, but I don't have much sympathy for the situation you
: find yourself in.  From the tone of your posting, obviously some people
: you thought were "good" people were on the "pirate" list you have in your
: hands.  

: 	One thing you should not do IMHO, is to completely blame Turley
: for this.  As you stated he's around gotten some punishment for what he
: did by having his wco account terminated and if you so choose you could
: probably pursue legal action against him.  

: 	But again from the tone of your post plus your history with
: Turley, and your obvious dislike for the man, it seems to me that you have
: already decided to blame Turley for it.  

As far as I can tell, it was Dr. Tom who told Brutal Deluxe that LemminGS
and Convert 3200 source would be uploaded and made available for free.
And, it was confirmed that it was cturley@wco.com who uploaded and made
the files available. So, it is his fault that it got uploaded in the first
place. Besides, if you look below at what was originally quoted, Joe has
no idea what to do. "Blame it all on Turley" appears to be an option. It's
obvious that he doesn't want to blame Dr. Tom for the actions of those
people who downloaded the software.


: 	IMHO, it is completely wrong to blame Turley for what has
: happened.  What Turley did was wrong, obviously.  But did Turley go around
: to each of the people on the pirate list, and force them to download the
: programs??  I don't think Turley has that much influence over people.  My
: point is that Turley did wrong by providing the opportunity to download
: the programs to people.  But those people had a CHOICE: They could ignore
: it and do the right thing, or they could do the wrong thing and download
: them.  

I don't think Joe is blaming him for the fact that "good" people
downloaded the program. He has a list, and I think he wants to give each
of those people (and they know who they are) to explain themselves to him,
which, I believe, has absolutely nothing to do with Dr. Tom, other than
the fact that he made some commercial software publicly available.

: 	Obviously, some did the wrong thing.  I am sorry you find yourself
: in this situation, but things like this happen.  I hope you will do the
: thing that you feel is the best, without compromising your morals and
: ethics.  

: -Don
:     

[Joe Kohn's original post]
[some deleted]
: > It leaves me in a horrible situation. What am I going to do? What can I do?
: > Forgive and forget? Blame it all on Turley? Turn my other cheek? Post a
: > list of pirates? 
: > 
: > I'm not at all pleased about this situation. But, I'm certainly open to 
: > suggestions about how to rectify this situation as soon as possible.
: > 
: > Thanks for nothing, Turley.


Stavros