The Turley A2 Chronicles Vol.4 - (was:)Re: Mark Twain Video Now Available

["Charles T. Turley" <cturley@wco.com>]

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Zardini ranted:
Turley replies with ***:
Charles T. Turley (cturley@wco.com) wrote:

: (A) If Joe has the legal right to possess and show such an alledged
: GS/OS v6.0.2, then why doesn't he simply make it avialable to 
everybody
: that wants a copy also?

  Are you so stupid ??

*** No, Zardini, I'm no more stupid than you and Joe are!

  Nobody has the rights on the GS/OS but Apple Computer.

*** I know full well, how has the rights to GS/OS!
You should know that I know that from the International tel-con we had 
about it all in vivid detail last year, the very expensive $81.00+ voice 
call I made to you to discuss it all then.  You do remember that don't 
you?

Joe has the 6.02 (french version) on his hard drive because we needed to 
put a system on the rom 04 to test some program and as I had with me my 
hard drive, we have copied from my hard drive (I use the french version 
of the system 6.02) to the hard drive of the rom 04. So the rom 04 has 
the 6.02.

*** You should place a period between the zero and the two.  There is no 
ROM 04 Apple IIGS.  Get it together Zardini!

  Joe will never give this 6.02 because it's not the definitive version.
Joe has Wolf 3D but he will never give it because it's a beta version.

***  WHATEVER!!!

  It's really not difficult to understand...

***  WHATEVER!!!


: no way of actually obtaining, varifying the reality of such a thing or
: using on your computer (such as the alledged GS/OS v6.0.2) really 
seems
: like a waste of money and effort to me.

   I think that the interest of the video is not the system or Wolf, 99%
of the video is for the rom 04...

***  WHATEVER!!!  Like I pointed out above - there IS NO ROM 04 - Apple 
IIGS.    There may well be a VIRTUAL ROM 04 IIGS - when Tony Morales 
releases GSx.


: (D) IMHO - I've seen many instances of alledged programs for the IIGS
: having been lost forever - with the general excuse that the hard drive
: crashed and the program and/or it's src. codes were lost, with no 
other
: back-up of such available.  I personally think such an excuse is 
nothing
: more than a general cop-out to cover the facts that such a thing never
: really existed.

 Who are you to tell such things ?  Coordinator/Chief/Organizer = 
Nothing.

***  WHATEVER!!!  I'm not telling anything!  I'm expressing my opinion 
and nothing more.  So, get off of your FRENCHIE HIGH HORSE Zardini.  I 
have no respect for you and more!   I used to have a lot of respect for 
you.  But not any more And, for what it's worth I know a score of others 
that feel the exact saem way about you now.  Somebody needs to deflate 
your EGO buddy!  Somebody needs to show you that you arn't a demigog and 
never can be because of your BAD ATTITUDE.

    You have never done anything for the GS, you are not abble to write
2 lines of code,

***  WHATEVER!!!  I never told anybody that I write code and never 
intend to learn. I'm not a programmer any more than Joe Kohn is a 
programmer.  We are both what is called SHAKERS & MOVERS.   Joe does it 
for MONEY!   I do it for THE LOVE & ENJOYMENT OF IT!

 so please keep your comments. You are no one here, think
about this...

DITTO LAMER! ***  WHATEVER!!!  I have just as much value in the Apple II 
community as you and everybody else has!  We all have value and none of 
us "are no one here".  We all count for something are we wouldn't be 
here.  Think about that one.  Here in America, we are free to make any 
comments we wish to make.  It's one of our RIGHTS!

 You dream to have your name in the Apple II history,

***  WHATEVER!!!     I dream of no such thing!  That's your opinion.  
It's not at all what I want.  I have no desire to be in Apple II 
history, in any fashion thank you!  It's LAMERS like you and dozens of 
others that gave me all this FAME, LIVING LEGEND and HIGH PROFILE 
STATUS.  I never wanted it and never asked for it - period!

 but you
make a mistake. Your name will fill the page of all the thieves and 
others
little lamers who wanted to be important.

***  WHATEVER!!!   Like I said, I don't want to be important.  We are 
all important in our only ways in the Apple II community - and never 
forget that LAMER!  You code, I coordinate, shake and move for the fun 
of it.   Joe, squirm's, wheals , deals, pushes shareware and old titles 
and videos for MONEY to put into his pocket.   Which is all fine and 
good - just as it should be.  We all have our own special functions and 
abilities in the Apple II community, to help meet the needs of the Apple 
II community.  And, never forget that either!!!

 Sector editing is the worst thing
you could do... It's so shabby, so cowardly..

*** I agree whith you on that one Zardini.  And, I don't do it NOW!  Got 
that???  And when I did, it was never intended for any form of public 
view or distribution and was never made available by me as such - 
PERIOD!    As an example, many people say that masterbation is WRONG. 
So, if I decide to masterbate, in the privacy of my own home, I don't 
expect people to sneak in and take pictures of it and SPREAD them all 
over the world to the public.  I'd never do such a thing myself and 
would never let anybody else have the opportunity to do such a tacky 
thing either!   Same goes for anything I ever sector edited.  I never 
knowing allowed anybody to have copies for public distribution - NEVER!
And, I certainly never distributed any such thing to the public in any 
manner.


   I have at home, a copy of Bille Art (our first game) that you have
sector edited..

***  That's not correct!  I DID NOT SECTOR EDIT IT.  Somebody else did 
that sector edit on it, not me.  I told you all about it, I sent it to 
Jessie Blue, after he asked me for a copy.  I concluded it to be the 
same version, that was available on the Internet ftp sites.  He said he 
could find a copy of it on the Internet and ask me to mail him a copy - 
so I mailed him the only one that I had, concluding it to be the 
official released version.  He gave you a copy of his that I sent to 
him.  I never distributed it to anybody else and certainly not to the 
public.  Why should I?  Like I said LAMER, I concluded it was the 
official released version from your group, which was avalable for 
everybody to download from the NET.  I got it from the same source I got 
all of my other French wares from!  Whoever did the sector edit, did it 
and gave it to that source, knowing full well, that I would get a copy 
and was hoping I would distribute it as such everywhere.  I didn't 
distribute it everywhere.  I only sent a copy to Jesse Blue (Alex), 
after he ask me for it.  I never uploaded it to anywhere.   It's your 
demo, so you can do whatever you wish with it.  But, STOP your STUPID 
LIES about my sector editing your DEMO.  I DID NOT SECTOR EDIT IT.

IS THAT CLEAR TO YOU AND EVERBODY ELSE NOW?

 It's so funny to see the difference between the original
scroll text and your version.. : a lot of 'hello to Dr Tom' and so many
'hello to 1WWS' had be added... I think that I will download this 
version on
the net one day...

***  WHATEVER!!!  It's UPLOAD, LAMER!  UPLOAD, not download!  You 
download something from the NET.  You upload something to the net!  Got 
it?   Like I said there is no 'VERSION' from me.  The versions, all of 
them are not from me, nor were they altered from me or sector edited 
from me or by me.  They are all your DEMO'S - so do with them as you 
will.  Simply LEAVE MY NAME OUT OF IT.  I never had anything to do with 
any of the versions - period!

   We don't need any excuse, never. If we decided one day to give the 
6.02,
we'll do it.. If we decide to keep it for us, we'll keep it and all your 
claims
won't change anything...

***  WHATEVER!!!  Share you talents with others that need and want what 
you have ot offer or keep them to yourself!  That's your thing anyway, 
or so it seems.


      We have priorities... 6.02 is not a priority. 6.02 is not a 
software
like our previous ones. There is no a beginning and a end. There will be
always things to add and things to correct. A system is never 
finished...
But more than this, We only work on it with little touchs. Sometimes we 
had
something, and we let it like this for 3 or 4 months... Later we add 
something
else...
    I have no idea of the release date because it's not our current 
priority
project. Convert update and Lemmings are more important...

***  WHATEVER!!!  We have enough games to play.  We need an updated and 
improved GS/OS, much more than anothergame converted from ANOTHER 
PLATFORM.


   [sniped] 

I hope you don't have Convert 3200, and I think that you won't have 
Lemmings...

*** I do have Convert 3200 - you sent it to me via email on AOL, 
yourself - to review in GS WorldView - REMEMBER?  Try to deny that! I've 
still got it. It's a fine program (even with the TACKY, FALSE EE). And, 
I don't want Lemmings!  Understood?  I don't need it. If I want it I'll 
play it on the Mac.

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Insert: for the clarification and public needs to know the TRUE FACTS 
about the Mark Twain! 

FOR PICTURED REVIEWS SEE THESE URL's; 
http://www.wco.com/~cturley/db/twain.html
http://www.woz.org/Pages/Kfest/gifs/friday/MarkTwainFULL.JPG

FOR TEXT REVIEW SEE THESE URL's; 
http://www.wco.com/~3d5d1wsw/gsezine/GS.WorldView/*GS.FUTURE/
(PLEASE READ AND REVIEW text files); 
MARK.TWAIN.GIF'S.INFO.txt
MARK.TWAIN.NEW.INFO.txt


Cheers,
Tom

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