Re: The Turley A2 Chronicles Vol.4 - (was:)Re: Mark Twain Video Now Available

[geoff@the-hermes.net (Geoff Weiss)]

Charles T. Turley <cturley@wco.com> wrote:
>*** No, Zardini, I'm no more stupid than you and Joe are!

You are stupid for thinking that you would be given the honor of having
a beta copy of their work that is beiong called GS/OS 6.0.2.

>about it all in vivid detail last year, the very expensive $81.00+ voice 
>call I made to you to discuss it all then.  You do remember that don't 
>you?

Just because you made the effort to call doesn't mean you are on his
list of beta testers.  You tend to call alot of people to get free 
copies of software--too bad you lie over the phone to get your way
(referring to how you got a copy of Fast Eddie).

>*** You should place a period between the zero and the two.  There is no 

What is the difference with 6.0.2 and 6.02--we know what he means.  He is
struggling with English, let him slide with other normenclatures.

>***  WHATEVER!!!  Like I pointed out above - there IS NO ROM 04 - Apple 

There is no ROM 04 GS?  Then what machine did I see at KansasFest that
had an internal floppy and harddrive, built-in stereo, and labeled
"Mark Twain" on the bottom?  The machine looked real to me--it ran
GS/OS and GS software.

>IIGS.    There may well be a VIRTUAL ROM 04 IIGS - when Tony Morales 
>releases GSx.

it looks like you are spreading false/misleading rumors again trying
to say Tony will release something that will compare to the ROM 04.
I would say that are completely about and projects Tony is really
working on to generate false hype (which only leads to disappointments
when the final product is released).

If Tony releases something that is "virtual," how can it exist in the
real world?  Isn't there a law that says you shouldn't be on the Internet
while under the influence?

>***  WHATEVER!!!  I'm not telling anything!  I'm expressing my opinion 
>and nothing more.  So, get off of your FRENCHIE HIGH HORSE Zardini.  I 
>have no respect for you and more!   I used to have a lot of respect for 

Zardini spoke the truth.  It is pretty obvious that you can't respect
people who speak the truth.

>you.  But not any more And, for what it's worth I know a score of others 
>that feel the exact saem way about you now.  Somebody needs to deflate 

I'm in total agreement with Zardini (and so is most of the Apple II
community).  There is no reason to release any software that isn't
finished. 

>your EGO buddy!  Somebody needs to show you that you arn't a demigog and 
>never can be because of your BAD ATTITUDE.

Talk about ego--people have entrusted you with beta versions of software
and you went ahead and stabbed them in the back.  Complaining about not
having latest versions of beta software sounds like ego is deflated
and you expect our sympathy to help you boost it.  I'm smart enough to
not fall for that!

>***  WHATEVER!!!  I never told anybody that I write code and never 
>intend to learn. I'm not a programmer any more than Joe Kohn is a 
>programmer.  We are both what is called SHAKERS & MOVERS.   Joe does it 

Joe is a distributor of information.  People go to him to publish up-
coming news in the Apple II world (or seeks to get information).  He
doesn't have to leach off of other people's articles to distribute
information (like your Mark Twain information).

>for MONEY!   I do it for THE LOVE & ENJOYMENT OF IT!

Hmm, weren't you asking for money back in your origina VAMPS disks?
You wanted money for hacking mods which sounded worse than the originals?
Since you made no money that way, you found teen-agers to write 
programs for to be released under your organizations name.  You
were a leach to get work done that without giving all the proper
credit to the programmer.

> so please keep your comments. You are no one here, think
>about this...
>
>DITTO LAMER! ***  WHATEVER!!!  I have just as much value in the Apple II 
>community as you and everybody else has!  We all have value and none of 

i hear someone's ego talking again.  You, Charles Turley, are a no one.
You have no value!

>here.  Think about that one.  Here in America, we are free to make any 
>comments we wish to make.  It's one of our RIGHTS!

Yeah, shout "Fire!" in a crowded movie theater and see how far your first
amendment rights get you.

> Z> You dream to have your name in the Apple II history,
>
>***  WHATEVER!!!     I dream of no such thing!  That's your opinion.  
>It's not at all what I want.  I have no desire to be in Apple II 
>history, in any fashion thank you!  It's LAMERS like you and dozens of 
>others that gave me all this FAME, LIVING LEGEND and HIGH PROFILE 
>STATUS.  I never wanted it and never asked for it - period!

Every other post in csa2 was wriiten by you.  You give false rumors
about things to look for.  A few months ago you said: "Word Perfect
for the Apple II should be classified as freeware any time soon."
I didn't believe you could get the product switched to freeware
status.  Corel is smart to keep it locked from public hands.  If
you want to use Word Perfect, you must purchase a copy for DOS,
Windows, or the Mac.  They wouldn't want to risk to lose a sale
for someone who is still using an obsolete system.

>***  WHATEVER!!!   Like I said, I don't want to be important.  We are 
>all important in our only ways in the Apple II community - and never 
>forget that LAMER!  You code, I coordinate, shake and move for the fun 
>of it.   Joe, squirm's, wheals , deals, pushes shareware and old titles 

Joe "squirms, wheels, and deals?"  For some reason, I think Brutal
Deluxe got a relatively big percentage of all sales with Convert 3200.
It is you who lie and cheat to get software for free.

>and videos for MONEY to put into his pocket.   Which is all fine and 

The user group treasurery is not Joe's pocket.  How daring you are for
trying to defame Joe like that!

>good - just as it should be.  We all have our own special functions and 
>abilities in the Apple II community, to help meet the needs of the Apple 
>II community.  And, never forget that either!!!

You have no special function or ability.  Go away!

> Z> Sector editing is the worst thing
> Z> you could do... It's so shabby, so cowardly..

I'll admit it--I had sector edited stuff when I was 14 years ago, but that
was 12 years ago.  I've grown up since then.

>*** I agree whith you on that one Zardini.  And, I don't do it NOW!  Got 
>that???  And when I did, it was never intended for any form of public 
>view or distribution and was never made available by me as such - 

If you didn't sector edit software for distribution, then why did you
do it?  Being a _legal_ owner of Platinum Paint, I see no reason why
I should even attempt to modify the text in the program.

> Z>We don't need any excuse, never. If we decided one day to give the 
> Z>6.02,
> Z>we'll do it.. If we decide to keep it for us, we'll keep it and all your 
> Z>claims
> Z>won't change anything...
>
>***  WHATEVER!!!  Share you talents with others that need and want what 

Your ego is talking again.  You are saying other need the product so you
can get it.  Thankfully, Zardini is smart enough to not hand you his
developemnt work in your greedy hands.  GS/OS 6.0.1 with GUPP and the
patches from GS+ is very reliable.  The GS community has no dire need
of a new OS with all of the available system extensions.  Just about
everything you can find in System 7.5.5 or Windows 95 can be found as
NDAS, control panels, INITS, etc... to give the GS the same capability.

>***  WHATEVER!!!  We have enough games to play.  We need an updated and 
>improved GS/OS, much more than anothergame converted from ANOTHER 
>PLATFORM.

Ego is talking again.  GS/OS with the above mentioned is stable and
gives software developers a constant platform to design software.
A new version of an operating system and toolbox updates every year
adds compatibility pressures.  

>I don't want Lemmings!  Understood?  I don't need it. If I want it I'll 
>play it on the Mac.

There are some of us who don't have a Mac and would love to play it on
the GS.  

>Insert: for the clarification and public needs to know the TRUE FACTS 
>about the Mark Twain! 
[removed for brevity]

More _complete facts_ can be found on the Gravestein video and 
the back issues of Shareware Solutions II (look at the Joe's 
signature for any article he posted here for conatact info).

Geoff
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
e-mail: geoff@the-hermes.net   System Administrator for Hermes Internet Service
WWW: <a href=http://www.the-hermes.net/~geoff>Geoff's Home Page</a>
The report of my death was greatly exaggerated. -- Mark Twain