Stavros, Yes, there really is a "Visit Applesoft" CDA floating around that was written by Dave Lyons :) I =think= it's on the GRIND site, and I know that it is in either the A2 or A2Pro libraries on GEnie. -- -Harold Hislop Hardware Coordinator, Apple II RoundTable, GEnie 14Mhz/32k TWGS, 1Mb Rev-C RamFast, Prototype ROM_03 in tower (Heritage Mac hardware also spoken (great IIgs peripheral ;))